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    obama:

    To put us on solid ground, we should also find a bipartisan solution to strengthen Social Security for future generations. We must do it without putting at risk current retirees, the most vulnerable, or people with disabilities; without slashing benefits for future generations; and without subjecting Americans’ guaranteed retirement income to the whims of the stock market.
    the terrible truth, today, according to cbo:

    Social Security to Run Permanent Yearly Deficits - CBS News

    now, there's some valiant leadership even the lame can believe in

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    remember, cbo said two weeks ago that, yes, obamacare saves a solid 230B vs the deficit

    but only at the cost of more than THREE QUARTERS OF A TRILLION dollars (770B, to be precise) in new "revenues"

    Director's Blog Blog Archive Additional Information on CBO’s Preliminary Analysis of H.R. 2

    just how HONEST do you think barack obama is?

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    Deficits on pace to hit $2.58 trillion - David Rogers - POLITICO.com

    which is why a phony freeze just aint funny

    and so the sortie over the debt ceiling is all set up

    seeya on the floor, folks

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    i thought this president was gonna pull us out of two wars, you'd think that would make for easy defense cuts. instead we're gonna cut benefits to the poorest americans?
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    time mag, today:

    In May 2010, Barack Obama invited a small group of presidential historians to the White House for a working supper in the Family Dining Room. It was the second time he'd had the group in since taking office, and as he sat down across the table from his wife Michelle, the President pressed his guests for lessons from his predecessors. But as the conversation progressed, it became clear to several in the room that Obama seemed less interested in talking about Lincoln's team of rivals or Kennedy's Camelot than the accomplishments of an amiable conservative named Ronald Reagan, who had sparked a revolution three decades earlier when he arrived in the Oval Office. Obama and Reagan share a number of gifts but virtually no priorities. And yet Obama was clearly impressed by the way Reagan had transformed Americans' attitude about government. The 44th President regarded the 40th, said one participant, as a vital "point of reference." Douglas Brinkley, who edited Reagan's diaries and attended the May dinner, left with a clear impression that Obama had found a role model. "There are policies, and there is persona, and a lot can be told by persona," he says. "Obama is approaching the job in a Reaganesque fashion."

    When Obama stood before Congress, the Cabinet and the American people to deliver his second State of the Union address, both the Reagan persona and policies put in appearances. He proposed a freeze in discretionary spending and federal salaries, a push to simplify the tax code and billions in cuts to the defense budget, and he made new calls for a bipartisan effort to repair Social Security. Each of these had been proposed before by another third-year President coming off a midterm defeat in a period of high unemployment. "Let us, in these next two years — men and women of both parties, every political shade — concentrate on the long-range, bipartisan responsibilities of government," Reagan said in his 1983 State of the Union, "not the short-range or short-term temptations of partisan politics."

    At a glance, it's hard to imagine a President who had less in common with Reagan than the Ivy League lawyer from Hawaii who seeks larger federal investments, a bigger social safety net and new regulations for Wall Street and Big Oil. But under the surface, there is no mistaking Obama's increasing reliance on his predecessor's career as a helpful template for his own. Since the November elections, Obama has brought corporate executives into the White House, reached out to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and made compromise his new watchword. He signed a surprise $858 billion tax cut that would have made Reagan weep with joy and huddled with Reagan's former White House chief of staff Ken Duberstein for lessons learned when the Gipper governed amid economic troubles. Over the Christmas break, White House press secretary Robert Gibbs tweeted that Obama was reading a Reagan biography, and just to confirm the bond, Obama recently wrote an homage to Reagan for USA Today. "Reagan recognized the American people's hunger for accountability and change," Obama wrote, conferring on Reagan two of his most cherished political slogans.
    Obama's Reagan Bromance: Admiring the Gipper's Vision - TIME

    the problem is our contemporary prez, unlike the gip, is all phony

    and how do you reaganites and anti-reaganites feel about THAT?

    seeya at the polls, pals

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    Re: Obama Will Use SOTU to Call for 5 yr Freeze on Non-Security Discretionary Spendin

    Freezes will do nothing until we cut spending. Simple math, can't give tax cuts and increase spending.

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    Not if, as you alluded, once the budget is back in order, appropriate spending does not resume.
    I guess, it's all in what one considers appropriate spending.

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    he called for a freeze in last year's sotu, nothing came of it

    as well as his debt commission, a tax on banks and using recovered 30B oftarp money to lend to small biz, while simultaneous ELIMINATING cap gains on small biz investment...

    State Of The Union 2010 (FULL TEXT): Read Obama's Speech

    he's incoherent and clueless

    sorry
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    I guess, it's all in what one considers appropriate spending.
    Ok, that I can agree with.
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    it was weird

    when i watched obama's sotu, taking notes, as always, my observation that the top domestic priority the president pushed was RACE TO THE TOP

    others he grabbed credit for, in that customary sotu way, included start and his reform of student loans (which was passed as part of his obamacare and which he emphasized in this destitute sotu ABOVE that great white whale he hounded and harpooned like an ahab)

    i noted that his second most called out political breakthrough that lugubrious twilight was his CREDIT CARD reform

    which makes the juxtaposition of cnn's report two days subsequent all the more jarring:

    Credit card interest rates hover near record highs of 15% - Jan. 28, 2011

    remember, his 2010 sotu asserted as well this phony freeze

    it also guaranteed a bank tax, an elimination of cap gains on small biz, and his doa debt commission, the embodiment of presidential buck passing

    are you sure this guy knows what he's doing?

    still not embarrassed?

    party on

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