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    Re: Bush officials violated Hatch Act, agency concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Why do you assume that this wasn't investigated?
    Because there wasn't.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Bush officials violated Hatch Act, agency concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    If bush committed a criminal act, or otherwise violated the law, he should be prosecuted. That's not political. I feel the same way about Obama or Clinton or any other political figure.

    The real question is: Why don't you?
    I agree. Anyone who violates the law should be prosecuted. It too often doesn't work that way. But it should.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Bush officials violated Hatch Act, agency concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because there wasn't.
    Evidence? I've found that your claims generally lack substance.

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    Re: Bush officials violated Hatch Act, agency concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The Hatch Act prohibits civil servants from participating in partisan political events. Bush isn't a civil servant. Was there some sort of violation? Maybe. Is Bush guilty of violating the Hatch Act? That's a stretch.
    Not sure if it's a stretch or not. You're welcome to your opinion, but I wouldn't consider either of us the authoratative word on this. But, if you agree he may have violated something, isn't that enough to seek to hold him responsible?

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Bush officials violated Hatch Act, agency concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Evidence? I've found that your claims generally lack substance.
    I have to prove a negative?

    Why don't you prove that an investigation did take place. That would make more sense.
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    Re: Bush officials violated Hatch Act, agency concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not sure if it's a stretch or not. You're welcome to your opinion, but I wouldn't consider either of us the authoratative word on this.
    Read the act. It applies to civil servants, not elected officials.

    But, if you agree he may have violated something, isn't that enough to seek to hold him responsible?
    Sure. Now, go dig up an actual violation of the law, because you're barking up the wrong tree, with this one.
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    Re: Bush officials violated Hatch Act, agency concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I have to prove a negative?

    Why don't you prove that an investigation did take place. That would make more sense.
    Why don't you post a thread on that topic? This one is about Bush's (suspected) violations of the Hatch Act.

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    Re: Bush officials violated Hatch Act, agency concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by Catz Part Deux View Post
    Why don't you post a thread on that topic?
    Ohhhh, so now you don't even wanna talk about it.

    This one is about Bush's (suspected) violations of the Hatch Act.
    Then, this thread is finished, because I don't think the president can violate the Hatch Act.
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    Re: Bush officials violated Hatch Act, agency concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Then, this thread is finished, because I don't think the president can violate the Hatch Act.
    He absolutely can, if he uses a public facility (white house) and public resources (planes, phones, etc.) for political purposes. The Hatch Act requires political representatives to conduct their political activities separately from their elected responsibilities.

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    Re: Bush officials violated Hatch Act, agency concludes

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Read the act. It applies to civil servants, not elected officials.



    Sure. Now, go dig up an actual violation of the law, because you're barking up the wrong tree, with this one.
    The Bush white house violated the act. In the WH there are civil servents, working under the president. Seems to me there is an important element here you're overlooking. The claim is his Adminsitration violated it, civil servents working on his orders.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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