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    Re: Ventura sues over body scans, pat-downs

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Ventura? isn't he also one of those "truther" nutters? shows what damage steroids can do to your brain
    Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Whether or not is his a birther-tard or a truffer-tard is irrelevant to the law suit concerning strip searches and invasive pat downs.
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    Re: Ventura sues over body scans, pat-downs

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    100% correct
    dont like the TSA policies thats fine but they do NOT violate the constitution
    So if police wanted to stop you and strip search you while you were out driving or walking it would not be a violating of the constitution? I could be wrong but there is no fine print that says the 4th amendment only applies inside your home with the curtains closed and door locked.


    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Ventura sues over body scans, pat-downs

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Whether or not is his a birther-tard or a truffer-tard is irrelevant to the law suit concerning strip searches and invasive pat downs.
    While I do agree with this in general there is one way that can make it relevant. If he brings up the constitution it shows a repeated state of delusion.
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    Re: Ventura sues over body scans, pat-downs

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    True, I won't win the lawsuit. However, the lawsuit might draw more attention to the manner in which the TSA is interacting with the public. Right now, TSA seems to stand for Thugs Squeezing Asses.
    My ecounters with the TSA have been nothing but professional except for one instance. I thing this is all overblown with Vetura just wanting some plublicity. Why don't people quite whining as we all have the same equipment and just be done with it and get on the GD plane.

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    Re: Ventura sues over body scans, pat-downs

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So if police wanted to stop you and strip search you while you were out driving or walking it would not be a violating of the constitution? I could be wrong but there is no fine print that says the 4th amendment only applies inside your home with the curtains closed and door locked.
    what does this have to do with TSA policy? oh thats right NOTHING LMAO
    if the police stop me and want to search me I can say no and with out CONSENT or PROBABLY CAUSE they cant search me but if I do give them consent they can

    when you fly you give implied consent so your example is meaningless to the debate at hand.


    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
    True to bad in reality that has NOTHING to do with flying and TSA policies LMAO
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    Re: Ventura sues over body scans, pat-downs

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    My ecounters with the TSA have been nothing but professional except for one instance. I thing this is all overblown with Vetura just wanting some plublicity. Why don't people quite whining as we all have the same equipment and just be done with it and get on the GD plane.
    bonus points for using an argument that defends both the TSA and any serial rapist.
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    Re: Ventura sues over body scans, pat-downs

    Quote Originally Posted by EnigmaO01 View Post
    My ecounters with the TSA have been nothing but professional except for one instance.
    Doesn't negate the negative experiences that people had.

    [and all my experiences recently have been professional, etc]


    And centrist, if you're gonna claim this is constitutional, please instead of effectively repeating in a circular/infinite "it is because it is" type, prove your claims.
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    Re: Ventura sues over body scans, pat-downs

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    Doesn't negate the negative experiences that people had.

    [and all my experiences recently have been professional, etc]


    And centrist, if you're gonna claim this is constitutional, please instead of effectively repeating in a circular/infinite "it is because it is" type, prove your claims.
    Told you before I have proved my claims and they are SIMPLE to prove LMAO
    its common sense

    since no amendment is violated that means there is no violation of the constitution.

    Like Ive told you and others before, please state the amendment that you THINKTSA POLICY violates and I will gladly show you why you are wrong.

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    Re: Ventura sues over body scans, pat-downs

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    Like Ive told you and others before, please state the admendment that TSA POLICY violates and will gladly show you why you are wrong.
    I'd like to see at least one solid attempt at an argument that there is a fourth amendment violation. If the people complain about this being unconstitutional actually learned the law and applied it to the situation they would see how cut and dry this whole thing is.

    The burden is on them to put forward an argument. Even an bad argument would at least be something to discuss. But so far I haven't even seen anyone try.

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    Re: Ventura sues over body scans, pat-downs

    Quote Originally Posted by Centrist77 View Post
    what does this have to do with TSA policy? oh thats right NOTHING LMAO
    if the police stop me and want to search me I can say no and with out CONSENT or PROBABLY CAUSE they cant search me but if I do give them consent they can. when you fly you give implied consent so your example is meaningless to the debate at hand.
    What would stop them from saying when you drive or walk on sidewalks you give implied consent? You don't have to drive, you do not have a constitutional right to drive. You don't have to walk on the sidewalk you can find some other way to get to your destination.


    True to bad in reality that has NOTHING to do with flying and TSA policies LMAO
    Strip searches and invasive pat downs without reasonable cause or warrant are a violation of the 4th. You going to an airport is not probable cause. You do realize the constitution is a restriction on what the government can and can not do? TSA is a government agency.
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