Nationalism in high dosages may be hazardous to your health. Please consult a psychiatrist before beginning a regular regimen, and if feelings of elitism and douchbaggery continue, discontinue immediately before you become unable to do so on your own.
Democracy is two wolves and sheep voting on what's for dinner. Liberty is a well armed sheep willing to contest the vote.
As you observe, I lean libertarian. So allow me to school you on libertarianism. Your post betrays a fundamental lack of understanding as to how libertarianism works, and what libertarians object to. There is a coercive element in this situation, certainly. But the airline is the party being coerced into changing its policy, not the passenger being coerced into a search. The passenger consents, or else he doesn't partake an optional service. That is not coercion. The airline must implement the TSA policy or else be subject to penalty. That is unlibertarian coercion.
The argument that one "has to fly" for a job is just plain bunk. Making an argument like this betrays a poor understanding of what "consenting to a search" means in our legal system.
So really all I'm talking about here is facts. What should be doesn't enter into it. The fact is there is no constitutional violation here.
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Don't forget, these initial patdowns are done in front of other passengers, who are able to watch you being groped. The more intimate measures, like yanking out a prosthetic breast or examining ostomy bags are done in "private"... with only 2 or 3 strangers watching.
Not too many men would enjoy having their testicles and penis squeezed in public. I think these TSA invasive procedures need to be toned down considerably, and TSA needs to re-evaluate the interaction of their agents with the traveling public. Too damned many of these low-paid TSA agents are thugs and bullies who seem to enjoy making the experience as humiliating and degrading as possible.
My only issue is with people that cry about it and say it violates the constitution when the fact remains it does not. People that compare it to rape and assult and molestation when the fact remains it is not.
Hate, fight it, protest it etc etc thats all good by me, bring up that it violates the constitution and you look like a fool, not saying YOU did just making a general statement