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    mad Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Prison

    What a load of CRAP!!!! If anything the police should be REQUIRED to be recorded!!!! This pisses me off HARD!

    Christopher Drew is a 60-year-old artist and teacher who wears a gray ponytail and lives on the North Side. Tiawanda Moore, 20, a former stripper, lives on the South Side and dreams of going back to school and starting a new life.

    About the only thing these strangers have in common is the prospect that by spring, they could each be sent to prison for up to 15 years.
    “That’s one step below attempted murder,” Mr. Drew said of their potential sentences.
    The crime they are accused of is eavesdropping.

    The authorities say that Mr. Drew and Ms. Moore audio-recorded their separate nonviolent encounters with Chicago police officers without the officers’ permission, a Class 1 felony in Illinois, which, along with Massachusetts and Oregon, has one of the country’s toughest, if rarely prosecuted, eavesdropping laws.

    “Before they arrested me for it,” Ms. Moore said, “I didn’t even know there was a law about eavesdropping. I wasn’t trying to sue anybody. I just wanted somebody to know what had happened to me.”

    Ms. Moore, whose trial is scheduled for Feb. 7 in Cook County Criminal Court, is accused of using her Blackberry to record two Internal Affairs investigators who spoke to her inside Police Headquarters while she filed a sexual harassment complaint last August against another police officer. Mr. Drew was charged with using a digital recorder to capture his Dec. 2, 2009, arrest for selling art without a permit on North State Street in the Loop. Mr. Drew said his trial date was April 4.
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    Re: Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Priso

    Another example on how there are a different set of laws for us lowly citizens as opposed to our so called leaders.
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    Re: Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Priso

    Oh for gods sake.

    So we can't record them talking to us?

    But they can record us whenever they want without our permission or knowledge?

    Bollocks to that I say!

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    Re: Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Priso

    Let's see here.....

    1) Our government can record us anytime they wish, in any manner that they wish, and at just about any place they wish. It's legal.

    2) We cannot record the government in any way, without taking a risk of being prosecuted for it.

    Does anybody else also see a problem with this?
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    Re: Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Priso

    Heeelllooooo Big Brother... Everyone get out your copies of 1984 and F-451 to see where this world is heading....
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    Re: Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Priso

    This is so wrong on so many levels. The police can record us, they record our 911 calls, and they have video cameras in their cars that record us... All without our consent. Yet we can't record them? To be fair, the same is true with the UN. When I went to Haiti we were told that you cannot record or even take a picture of anything related to UN soldiers. Why? Probably because they didn't want the world to see how lazy they are. I am not lying when I say the only thing we ever saw them doing was standing outside the UN headquarters doing absolutely nothing among a city of impoverished people that suffer from a high violent crime rate. Laws like this should be struck down. The privacy of an officer should be as protected as that of citizens. If we can't tape police or record them, then by the same laws and privacy standards they shouldn't be allowed to do the same. Which brings me to my next point, outlaw all traffic light cameras...
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    Re: Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Priso

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    This is so wrong on so many levels. The police can record us, they record our 911 calls, and they have video cameras in their cars that record us... All without our consent. Yet we can't record them? To be fair, the same is true with the UN. When I went to Haiti we were told that you cannot record or even take a picture of anything related to UN soldiers. Why? Probably because they didn't want the world to see how lazy they are. I am not lying when I say the only thing we ever saw them doing was standing outside the UN headquarters doing absolutely nothing among a city of impoverished people that suffer from a high violent crime rate. Laws like this should be struck down. The privacy of an officer should be as protected as that of citizens. If we can't tape police or record them, then by the same laws and privacy standards they shouldn't be allowed to do the same. Which brings me to my next point, outlaw all traffic light cameras...
    I'm all for this, too. Recording 911 calls and dash cams are for our protection.
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    Re: Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Priso

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm all for this, too. Recording 911 calls and dash cams are for our protection.
    Couldn't being allowed to record cops just like they record us be considered part of our protection as well?
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    Re: Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Priso

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Couldn't being allowed to record cops just like they record us be considered part of our protection as well?
    I don't disagree with that, but there's no accountability with private recordings. They can be altered, edited, used out of context to present a false picture of the facts.
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    Re: Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Priso

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't disagree with that, but there's no accountability with private recordings. They can be altered, edited, used out of context to present a false picture of the facts.
    yeah, government would never do this...
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