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    Re: Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Priso

    this is why smart people don't say **** till they got a lawyer.
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    Re: Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Priso

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't disagree with that, but there's no accountability with private recordings. They can be altered, edited, used out of context to present a false picture of the facts.
    There are ways that can be used to determine if something was doctored.
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    Re: Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Priso

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I don't disagree with that, but there's no accountability with private recordings. They can be altered, edited, used out of context to present a false picture of the facts.
    Can't believe I'm hearing this from you.
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    Re: Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Priso

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    What a load of CRAP!!!! If anything the police should be REQUIRED to be recorded!!!! This pisses me off HARD!



    CONTINUED: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/23/us...ping.html?_r=2
    There needs to be a "punishment fits the crime" yardstick applied here. Yes, it is illegal in the State of Illinois to record a conversation when only one party knows. It's not a new law, been that way forever.

    Twelve states have the same kind of laws about eavesdropping that Illinois has -- both parties must consent. All states have criminal penalties when their eavesdropping laws are broken. "Can We Tape?"

    If this incident involved the police surrepitiously recording a citizen without a warrant, we would be having a different discussion.
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    Re: Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Priso

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    There are ways that can be used to determine if something was doctored.
    You're right, but I think that without the proper chain of custody on something like that, it's just a goat **** looking for a place to happen.

    Even if a private recording is thrown out of court trial and the accused officer, or official is cleared of all the charges, there's still the court of public opinion, where that peson's name is mud for the rest of his life.

    Again, I don't disagree with what Digsbe said. I'm only posting the down side to such activity.
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    Re: Eavesdropping Laws Mean That Turning On an Audio Recorder Could Send You to Priso

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    There are ways that can be used to determine if something was doctored.
    Yes, but in practice the initial recording is what sticks in peoples' minds. Yes, in a court case the truth might eventually come out after several expensive expert witnesses and techs pour over the recording to figure that out, but just take the ACORN "scandal" as an example. A very significant portion of the population is still under the impression that ACORN employees gave advice on how best to run a brothel for underage prostitutes. The tapes that were "evidence" of that were cleverly edited (not even doctored, just cleverly cut and pasted!) to show something that was essentially the polar opposite of what really happened. (reality: the home that the girl was supposedly seeking to get a loan for was pitched as a way for these girls to escape prostitution, for those not aware)

    Doesn't matter what reality was. The public and even congress believed what they saw, and ACORN got its funding yanked and was forced to splinter.

    edit: All that said, I think making it illegal to tape police officers is ****ing insane.
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