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    Re: Court orders Emanuel off mayoral ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    It doesn’t show that at all. The law in question is a law that only pertains to local elections.
    Actually, it does show that. The only time a lack of residency is an issue is when its the guy running for the opposition party that lack's residency.


    Trying to apply the local election law to a federal election and saying “see, they did it too” seems like something only a hack would support.
    Let me refresh your memory about what I was responding to:

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    You can seek office in a state and not ever have had to live there? News to me.
    seems to me only a total hack would ignore what was being responded to and invent a strawman in its stead. It should not be any surprise to conservatives that one can seek office in a state without every having lived there. Alan Keyes fits that description perfectly.

    However, Rahm Emanuel doesn't. He lived in Illinois for quite some time.

    And as I said, I don't care who gets elected in Chicago, I'm getting ****ed. All of the options blow, and as a Chicagoan, I hate that.

    But all of the hacks who have nothing to do with Chicago gloating because they are delusional in their hatred of Obama irritate the **** out of me, though.

    Sadly, as the prof pointed out, there are even worse options than Rahm out there.
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    Re: Court orders Emanuel off mayoral ballot

    It was clear from the time Emanuel said he was running what the rules were and he thought his clout with the Dems and Obama would trump the rules and he was wrong.

    It's an example of the arrogance he has that he thought he could get away with this.

    People in Congress and the Senate go home home a lot and can maintain residency.

    I think this was a good decision and shows that in some places,even the political corruption hub of the Nation rules still apply.

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    Re: Court orders Emanuel off mayoral ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    It was clear from the time Emanuel said he was running what the rules were and he thought his clout with the Dems and Obama would trump the rules and he was wrong.

    It's an example of the arrogance he has that he thought he could get away with this.

    People in Congress and the Senate go home home a lot and can maintain residency.

    I think this was a good decision and shows that in some places,even the political corruption hub of the Nation rules still apply.
    I would hold back on saying he was wrong. The Illinois Supreme court has stayed his removal form teh ballot and they are going to hear the case.

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    Re: Court orders Emanuel off mayoral ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Actually, it does show that. The only time a lack of residency is an issue is when its the guy running for the opposition party that lack's residency.
    In this case it's an actual law requiring Chicago residency to run - which will apparently be interpreted differently very shortly. In other times, it's just general complaining. I don't see those two things being the same. I complained when Keyes ran (I still think Ditka would have been a better option), but I didn't think he should be kept off the ballot as being a carpet bagger wasn't against the law.

    If the other guy didn't realize that you can run for federal office without having been a resident, he was wrong. There are countless examples - Alan Keyes in Illinois (as you pointed out) and Hillary Clinton in New York as just a couple.

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    Re: Court orders Emanuel off mayoral ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I would hold back on saying he was wrong. The Illinois Supreme court has stayed his removal form teh ballot and they are going to hear the case.
    technically not correct. They stayed the removal of his name from the ballot 'while they decide if they will hear the case'. Unless something else has happened since this morning.

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    Re: Court orders Emanuel off mayoral ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    technically not correct. They stayed the removal of his name from the ballot 'while they decide if they will hear the case'. Unless something else has happened since this morning.
    The SC has agreed to review the case. They aren't taking any additional written or oral arguments - which signals to me that they are planning on overturning the decision.

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    Re: Court orders Emanuel off mayoral ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    In this case it's an actual law requiring Chicago residency to run - which will apparently be interpreted differently very shortly. In other times, it's just general complaining. I don't see those two things being the same.
    I actualy agree that they are different, but I was responding to a specific comment about general residency, not about thedifference in laws. Also, if the law about residency is basically the same one for all city empoyees, there is a grace time between being hired and establishing permanent residency.

    Even if that isn' tthe case, Rahm is a little different. His out-of-state residency could be viewed as temporary based on the fact that his job is known to have an expiration date. I'm not sure how that would affect teh interpretation of the law.

    Either way, we're looking at a load of crap as far as our next mayor goes. It' snothing new, though.

    I complained when Keyes ran (I still think Ditka would have been a better option), but I didn't think he should be kept off the ballot as being a carpet bagger wasn't against the law.
    I actually liked Ryan, the kinky freak. (Plus his ex-wife is absurdly hot, so he had to have some skills getting **** done). Ditka might make a good mayor, though.

    If the other guy didn't realize that you can run for federal office without having been a resident, he was wrong. There are countless examples - Alan Keyes in Illinois (as you pointed out) and Hillary Clinton in New York as just a couple.
    Exactly. that's what I was trying to get at.

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    Re: Court orders Emanuel off mayoral ballot

    Emanuel still appears to be the heavy favorite to win the election on InTrade, indicating that most people are betting the Supreme Court sides with him...
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    Re: Court orders Emanuel off mayoral ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Whovian View Post
    technically not correct. They stayed the removal of his name from the ballot 'while they decide if they will hear the case'. Unless something else has happened since this morning.
    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    The SC has agreed to review the case. They aren't taking any additional written or oral arguments - which signals to me that they are planning on overturning the decision.
    Buck got to it before me.

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    Re: Court orders Emanuel off mayoral ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I actualy agree that they are different, but I was responding to a specific comment about general residency, not about thedifference in laws. Also, if the law about residency is basically the same one for all city empoyees, there is a grace time between being hired and establishing permanent residency.
    From what I understand it's basically the same. The big difference is that for city employees, they have to be a resident at the time they are hired (there might be a grace period too, I guess). For elected office, they have to be a resident for 1 year prior to the election.

    I think it's all moot anyway. I see the SC overturning the judgement based on their actions today. Not sure what they're opinion will state, since the law seems fairly clear with very specific exemptions for which Rahm doesn't appear to qualify.

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