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Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

Do I think it was tacky and disrespectful to play what is in effect the Chinese national anthem at a US state dinner? Yeah, I do. However, Obama's people were indeed told what songs were going to be played, and if his foreign advisors are so obtuse that they didn't at least do a google on those tunes, then my suspicion is correct. He did pull people from his campaign accounting office and put them in charge of foreign affairs.

That said, there much overreacting and gnashing of teeth in this thread. This is basically the equivalent of Obama being invited to a state dinner with Britain's prime minister, having one of the USA's most popular singers there as entertainment, and having said singer belt out The Star Spangled Banner, our national anthem which discribes how we whipped British ass once upon a time.

Really, folks, choose your battles. Me, I'll foam about Chinese disrespect the next time those effers force one of our fighters down so they can strip the damned thing and reverse engineer it.
 
It was the perfect song, considering the current sitting president.
 
Hatuey said:
Maybe it's my lack of knowledge in regards to Chinese culture. I just don't see it. The song sounds like a regular 50s song. Bland. Melodic. Nothing inherently 'anti-American' about it. However I do find it funny that ludahai, defender of both catholic and anti-semitic historical revisionism is now pretending that history actually matters. I guess it's easier to complain about a song than it is to build up enough strength to call out the pedophile priests in his church.
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Ever hear of the Battle of Triangle Hill? Did yuo even google it, at least? Perhaps you should have before posting this comment.
 
Who cares. If this is as close as they can possibly get to an open expression of disdain, it only indicates cheap shots are the best they've got at the moment. Most Americans were probably watching American Idol or Jersey Shore.
 
E_Pluribus_Venom said:
Who cares. If this is as close as they can possibly get to an open expression of disdain, it only indicates cheap shots are the best they've got at the moment. Most Americans were probably watching American Idol or Jersey Shore.
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Who cares? This is a song that glorified the killing of American soldiers. Who ****ing cares??

Some folks just don't ****ing get it, man.
 
apdst said:
Who cares? This is a song that glorified the killing of American soldiers. Who ****ing cares??
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Yeah.. who cares... unless you've got a time machine with plans to go back and stop this national tragedy on piano keys.

apdst said:
Some folks just don't ****ing get it, man.
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and what do you propose? Going to war over it? Chill out..."man".
 
DiAnna said:
Do I think it was tacky and disrespectful to play what is in effect the Chinese national anthem at a US state dinner?
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Actually it is more like playing America the Beautiful. Why should this be considered disrespectful? Basically it is just a song saying: "I love my country. My country is very pretty. I will protect my country."

apdst said:
Who cares? This is a song that glorified the killing of American soldiers.
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So the Star-Spangled Banner is what? A song about how we gave the British flowers and chocolates before we started the orgy?
 
DiAnna said:
...Me, I'll foam about Chinese disrespect the next time those effers force one of our fighters down so they can strip the damned thing and reverse engineer it.
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I don't care if the Chinese knock down the aircraft of New America. Why should any Old American care?
 
StillBallin75 said:
The 200-mile thing is BS and has little basis in international law. International law only recognizes airspace and waters out to 12 nautical miles off the coast as being territorial. As for the fighter pilot, his balls were obviously too large for his own good.
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But China believes the EEZ out to 200 miles means that states don't have the right to conduct recon exercises... which is utter bull, and ironic because China does the exact same thing in the EEZs of Japan, Korea, Taiwan and Viet Nam...
 
Albert Di Salvo said:
You missed context and innuendo. This song has been appropriated for use in anti-American propaganda by the Chinese Communist Party in the same way the Nazi's appropriated the works of Richard Wagner to advance their propaganda.
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So, regardless of the original intent of the music, it sucks forever and is evil now? Sorry, but I'm too much a music lover to buy that.
 
ludahai said:
Have you ever HEARD this song???
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Have you?

The ONLY thing in the lyrics I posted that could 'upset' some delicate constitutions like yours would be this...

But if the wolves come
What greets them are the hunting rifles
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If you're not secure in your manhood enough to let something this trivial slip by, I really don't know what to say.
 
ludahai said:
Why am I not surprised the resident ChiCom supporter has chimed in...

Not the same... and the U.S. and U.K. have great relations today. The Chinese government has and still does regard the U.S. with disdain. I was living in China when the bombing of the embassy in Yugoslavia occurred and the anti-American propoganda (which this song played a part) that went on for weeks on end. Do you remember the Chinese reaction to the U.S. EP=3 recon plane that the Chinese illegally forced down which landed and was held in Hainan Province??? Do you remember the propoganda the Chinese government used??? Do you READ Chinese? Do you understand Mandarin?!?!? GET REAL!!!
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Has nothing to do with two lines in a song. Get over it.
 
Grant said:
If it was Sarah Palin playing the same song on the piano the Left would have been in an uproar.

But get anyone else doing it and they'll quickly back off and look the other way with their 'nothing to see here, folks' clumsiness.

They always manage to get around with one foot in their mouths but occasionally, and almost miraculously, they frequently fit the other one in there as well.
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I'm impressed.... 66 posts until someone brought Palin up.
 
Demon of Light said:
Actually it is more like playing America the Beautiful. Why should this be considered disrespectful? Basically it is just a song saying: "I love my country. My country is very pretty. I will protect my country.
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You and I rarely agree... until now.

Am I really the only 'rightie' that isn't ready to nuke China over a ****ing song?
 
ReverendHellh0und said:
/facepalm


I don't think the chinese take America seriously...... :doh
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Fixed that for you. :)

I don't know if it was intentional or not. From reading some of the comments in this thread, it appears it might have been. I'm not familiar enough with Chinese culture to know one way or the other. If it was intentional, I'd say you've been trolled by the country that practically owns yours.
 
Whovian said:
It's a patriotic Chinese song, about a specific battel in Korea. How is it propaganda?
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To us it means nothing - our culture derives little meaning from such things.
To many of them it's a powerful point to be making and means a lot (good and bad)
 
That settles it. We need a pianist to go over there and play "Suicide is Painless"! :lol:
 
Whovian said:
You and I rarely agree... until now.

Am I really the only 'rightie' that isn't ready to nuke China over a ****ing song?
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I think that if ludahai is right, and that this song is well-known for it's use in anti-American propaganda, then in all likelihood the choice of the song was deliberate. But I don't think we should make a big deal over this. If this was indeed meant as a subtle "**** you," and we confront them, they can just claim plausible deniability and say that the lyrics in the song don't mention Americans specifically, so we're just making something out of nothing. That's how the chicoms operate.
 
StillBallin75 said:
I think that if ludahai is right, and that this song is well-known for it's use in anti-American propaganda, then in all likelihood the choice of the song was deliberate. But I don't think we should make a big deal over this. If this was indeed meant as a subtle "**** you," and we confront them, they can just claim plausible deniability and say that the lyrics in the song don't mention Americans specifically, so we're just making something out of nothing. That's how the chicoms operate.
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They don't see things the way we do - we can equate it and move on (with ourselves) but to them the "meaning" will stick around for a while.

Cultural ignorance is part of the reason why this country is loosing it's ground - there's a stubborn denial of *how* our cultures are different and *what* we need to do to compensate. As a result - they are yanking us around by leashes.
 
Whovian said:
You and I rarely agree... until now.

Am I really the only 'rightie' that isn't ready to nuke China over a ****ing song?
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What makes you say that?

What gives Americans no reason to be offended by what appears to be an intended slap in the face?

Objectively, even some native Chinese acknowledge it as an insult to America.
 
Draco said:
What makes you say that?

What gives Americans no reason to be offended by what appears to be an intended slap in the face?

Objectively, even some native Chinese acknowledge it as an insult to America.
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All this fuss over a song is childish.
 
Whovian said:
Have you?

The ONLY thing in the lyrics I posted that could 'upset' some delicate constitutions like yours would be this...


If you're not secure in your manhood enough to let something this trivial slip by, I really don't know what to say.
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You really don't get the symbolic meaning of the song to the Chinese, do you.... figures... try learning the language, culture and living there sometime... the only time I heard it the time I lived there was in a wave of anti-American sentiment in May 1999 in the aftermath of the bombing of the embassy in Belgrade...
 
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