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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    You're being unreasonable if you are trying to claim that the song does not have an anti-American association. At the same time it is a huge overreaction for some of these other folks to think that allowing a Chinese pianist to play an anti-American song at a state dinner makes us "look weak."
    Maybe it's my lack of knowledge in regards to Chinese culture. I just don't see it. The song sounds like a regular 50s song. Bland. Melodic. Nothing inherently 'anti-American' about it. However I do find it funny that ludahai, defender of both catholic and anti-semitic historical revisionism is now pretending that history actually matters. I guess it's easier to complain about a song than it is to build up enough strength to call out the pedophile priests in his church.
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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Maybe it's my lack of knowledge in regards to Chinese culture. I just don't see it. The song sounds like a regular 50s song. Bland. Melodic. Nothing inherently 'anti-American' about it.
    I can't speak to other posters on this forum, but the song in question needn't be inherently anti-American in order to have a history of use in anti-American propaganda, as the evidence indicates certainly seems to be the case. I can also see how the song may have been written as a generally patriotic song that was appropriated for propaganda purposes.

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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Not the same...
    How exactly is it different? Read the lyrics for the Star-Spangled Banner very carefully.

    The Chinese government has and still does regard the U.S. with disdain.
    Not true at all. This is not to say China does not consider the U.S. a threat, it would be stupid for them to consider otherwise. Still, their attitude is hardly one of disdain, more like restrained optimism.

    I was living in China when the bombing of the embassy in Yugoslavia occurred and the anti-American propoganda (which this song played a part) that went on for weeks on end.
    Why is it that whenever the Chinese explode in a nationalist fervor it must always get described by people like you as being against something? I mean, we bombed their embassy and killed several of their people. They had a right to be pissed. Expressing pride in your country is a normal response in that sort of situation.
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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Likewise, would the reverse be interpreted the same and accepted?

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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    How exactly is it different? Read the lyrics for the Star-Spangled Banner very carefully.



    Not true at all. This is not to say China does not consider the U.S. a threat, it would be stupid for them to consider otherwise. Still, their attitude is hardly one of disdain, more like restrained optimism.



    Why is it that whenever the Chinese explode in a nationalist fervor it must always get described by people like you as being against something? I mean, we bombed their embassy and killed several of their people. They had a right to be pissed. Expressing pride in your country is a normal response in that sort of situation.


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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Do I think it was tacky and disrespectful to play what is in effect the Chinese national anthem at a US state dinner? Yeah, I do. However, Obama's people were indeed told what songs were going to be played, and if his foreign advisors are so obtuse that they didn't at least do a google on those tunes, then my suspicion is correct. He did pull people from his campaign accounting office and put them in charge of foreign affairs.

    That said, there much overreacting and gnashing of teeth in this thread. This is basically the equivalent of Obama being invited to a state dinner with Britain's prime minister, having one of the USA's most popular singers there as entertainment, and having said singer belt out The Star Spangled Banner, our national anthem which discribes how we whipped British ass once upon a time.

    Really, folks, choose your battles. Me, I'll foam about Chinese disrespect the next time those effers force one of our fighters down so they can strip the damned thing and reverse engineer it.

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    It was the perfect song, considering the current sitting president.
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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Maybe it's my lack of knowledge in regards to Chinese culture. I just don't see it. The song sounds like a regular 50s song. Bland. Melodic. Nothing inherently 'anti-American' about it. However I do find it funny that ludahai, defender of both catholic and anti-semitic historical revisionism is now pretending that history actually matters. I guess it's easier to complain about a song than it is to build up enough strength to call out the pedophile priests in his church.
    Ever hear of the Battle of Triangle Hill? Did yuo even google it, at least? Perhaps you should have before posting this comment.
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    Who cares. If this is as close as they can possibly get to an open expression of disdain, it only indicates cheap shots are the best they've got at the moment. Most Americans were probably watching American Idol or Jersey Shore.
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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by E_Pluribus_Venom View Post
    Who cares. If this is as close as they can possibly get to an open expression of disdain, it only indicates cheap shots are the best they've got at the moment. Most Americans were probably watching American Idol or Jersey Shore.
    Who cares? This is a song that glorified the killing of American soldiers. Who ****ing cares??

    Some folks just don't ****ing get it, man.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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