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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Second this thought. Ludahai, can you elaborate on the meaning of the lyrics and how exactly they are anti-American in the extreme?
    no time to go over all of them and deal with the translations because I have to prepare for class... the wolves reference that was already pointed out was specifically pointed at the U.S. This was one word used to describe the Americans in the 1950s... furthermore, this has a long history of being included in anti-American propaganda... saw it first hand when I lived there in May 1999...
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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    In no way should a state dinner be given for dictator Hu.
    You're entitled to you opinion, but thankfully our country is run by people who are a bit more on the ball than this.

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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The symbolic nature of the language and the song would be lost on those not familiar with it

    note: just noticed someone posted the part about 'wolves' You simply don't understand the importance of this song in Chinese anti-America propoganda... I heard it several times in May 1999 following the bombing of the embassy...
    Are you familiar with it? Could you please enlighten us as to what the lyrics are actually referring to? Just curious, since there doesn't seem to be any actual reference to Americans in the lyrics.

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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Anybody care to tell us what is actually anti-American about the song itself?
    This line:
    But if the wolves come
    What greets them are the hunting rifles

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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    This line:
    But if the wolves come
    What greets them are the hunting rifles
    .... yes... I sense the anti-American attitude...

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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Not so much "illegally forced down" as much as the dumb fighter jock had such balls that he ended up colliding with it. But I agree that the CCP are some of the greatest propagandists in human history.

    I have some information on this. The tactic used by the PLAAF pilot was a tactic the Chinese air force practices. The problem for the Chinese pilot is that he came too close. I discovered this from talking to Chinese on AsiaFinest and ChinaDaily BBS. They have used this tactic previously and didn't cause a collision.

    The Chinese are determined that New American military forces are going to stay at least two hundred miles away from the Chinese coast. New America doesn't have the balls to deal with Chinese nationalism.

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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    In no way should a state dinner be given for dictator Hu.
    Sometimes you just have to be the better man and be courteous even to those you see as your adversaries. Especially when you're trying to extract concessions and influence someone else's policy. It's just an inherent part of the give-and-take nature of international relations.

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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    .... yes... I sense the anti-American attitude...

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    You're being unreasonable if you are trying to claim that the song does not have an anti-American association. At the same time it is a huge overreaction for some of these other folks to think that allowing a Chinese pianist to play an anti-American song at a state dinner makes us "look weak."

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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    I have some information on this. The tactic used by the PLAAF pilot was a tactic the Chinese air force practices. The problem for the Chinese pilot is that he came too close. I discovered this from talking to Chinese on AsiaFinest and ChinaDaily BBS. They have used this tactic previously and didn't cause a collision.

    The Chinese are determined that New American military forces are going to stay at least two hundred miles away from the Chinese coast. New America doesn't have the balls to deal with Chinese nationalism.
    The 200-mile thing is BS and has little basis in international law. International law only recognizes airspace and waters out to 12 nautical miles off the coast as being territorial. As for the fighter pilot, his balls were obviously too large for his own good.
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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    It was wrong for the Chinese to do this and I don't think Obama should allow them to treat him, and the United States like that.
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