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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Korimir View Post
    Very clever of the pianist. Slip the knives in when we aren't looking. Make us look the fools.

    But what was President Obama supposed to do about it? What did you expect? There's no reason to expect the President to be familiar with Chinese propaganda; if he was, that'd just be another reason for you to call him a Socialist. And even if he'd recognized the piece, there would have been no graceful way to stop the pianist; any reaction at all would have been graceless and classless and would have shown our country in an even poorer light.

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    He shouldn't have given them a state dinner to begin with...
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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Chorus

    A great river flows, its waves are wide and calm
    The wind blows through the rice flowers, bearing fragrance to either shore
    My home is right there by the water
    I am used to hearing the punters' whistle
    and seeing the white sails on the boats



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    A great river flows, its waves are wide and calm
    The wind blows through the rice flowers, bearing fragrance to either shore
    My home is right there by the water
    I am used to hearing the punters' whistle
    and seeing the white sails on the boats



    Chorus

    This is my beautiful motherland
    The place where I grew up
    In this expansive stretch of land
    Wonderful landscape can be seen everywhere

    2.


    Solo

    Young ladies's beauty are like flowers
    Young men's hearts are big and determined
    In order to usher in a new era
    They've woken the sleeping mountains
    And changed the face of the river



    Chorus

    This is my heoric motherland
    The place where I grew up
    In this stretch of ancient land
    There is youthful vigour found everywhere

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    Great mountains, great rivers and an amazing land
    Every road is broad and wide
    When the friends come, fine drink is offered
    But if the wolves come
    What greets them are the hunting rifles



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    This is my strong motherland
    The place where I grew up
    On this stretch of warm and friendly land
    The sunshine of peace is everywhere
    Some Chinese acknowledge this song as anti-american.

    What is to be derived from this?

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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    The lyrics are anti-American IN THE EXTREME!!! All Korean War era propoganda is extreme. I remember seeing old Korean War movies replace NBA basketball games on TV in May 1999 after the U.S. accidently bombed the Chinese embassy in the then-Yugoslavia...
    Not that I disagree with you, but Whovian posted the lyrics and I fail to find any reference to America in the lyrics. If the lyrics in the song are extreme and anti-American, I would guess that they are implicit, subtle and metaphoric? Unless of course Whovian posted the lyrics to the wrong song...

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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Demon of Light View Post
    Tell me folks, are we not supposed to play the Star-Spangled Banner now when Obama goes to the U.K.?
    Why am I not surprised the resident ChiCom supporter has chimed in...

    Not the same... and the U.S. and U.K. have great relations today. The Chinese government has and still does regard the U.S. with disdain. I was living in China when the bombing of the embassy in Yugoslavia occurred and the anti-American propoganda (which this song played a part) that went on for weeks on end. Do you remember the Chinese reaction to the U.S. EP=3 recon plane that the Chinese illegally forced down which landed and was held in Hainan Province??? Do you remember the propoganda the Chinese government used??? Do you READ Chinese? Do you understand Mandarin?!?!? GET REAL!!!
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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Why am I not surprised the resident ChiCom supporter has chimed in...

    Not the same... and the U.S. and U.K. have great relations today. The Chinese government has and still does regard the U.S. with disdain. I was living in China when the bombing of the embassy in Yugoslavia occurred and the anti-American propoganda (which this song played a part) that went on for weeks on end. Do you remember the Chinese reaction to the U.S. EP=3 recon plane that the Chinese illegally forced down which landed and was held in Hainan Province??? Do you remember the propoganda the Chinese government used??? Do you READ Chinese? Do you understand Mandarin?!?!? GET REAL!!!
    Not so much "illegally forced down" as much as the dumb fighter jock had such balls that he ended up colliding with it. But I agree that the CCP are some of the greatest propagandists in human history.

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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    I can certainly see how the "wolves" being "greeting with hunting rifles" could be construed as anti-American. Certainly not the most diplomatic of choices for a song. But, as has been observed above, the role of a good host was to simply grin and bear it. Some of the histrionics about this betray a tremendous lack of understanding of international relations.

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    He shouldn't have given them a state dinner to begin with...
    Let me offer you some of your own advice:

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    GET REAL!!!
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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Anybody care to tell us what is actually anti-American about the song itself?
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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Draco View Post
    Some Chinese acknowledge this song as anti-american.

    What is to be derived from this?
    Second this thought. Ludahai, can you elaborate on the meaning of the lyrics and how exactly they are anti-American in the extreme?

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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Not that I disagree with you, but Whovian posted the lyrics and I fail to find any reference to America in the lyrics. If the lyrics in the song are extreme and anti-American, I would guess that they are implicit, subtle and metaphoric? Unless of course Whovian posted the lyrics to the wrong song...
    The symbolic nature of the language and the song would be lost on those not familiar with it

    note: just noticed someone posted the part about 'wolves' You simply don't understand the importance of this song in Chinese anti-America propoganda... I heard it several times in May 1999 following the bombing of the embassy...
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    Re: Chinese Pianist Plays Propaganda Tune at White House

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Let me offer you some of your own advice:
    In no way should a state dinner be given for dictator Hu.
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