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    Re: Domestic use of aerial drones by law enforcement likely to prompt privacy debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Civilians can already access this technology for relatively low amounts of money.
    Civilians can access Predator and Reaper drones?
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    Re: Domestic use of aerial drones by law enforcement likely to prompt privacy debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Civilians can access Predator and Reaper drones?
    The technology that goes into these machines is not complicated or beyond the capabilities of a determined DIY person.

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    Re: Domestic use of aerial drones by law enforcement likely to prompt privacy debate

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Which is the 4th amendment?

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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    The right of the people to be secure only in their houses with the tinted windows, windows shut,blinds and curtains shut, doors locks, and x-ray thermal imaging proof walls and roof.
    Various courts of the US disagree with you

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    Re: Domestic use of aerial drones by law enforcement likely to prompt privacy debate

    If you see a Govt. drone overhead, open fire. jk

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    Re: Domestic use of aerial drones by law enforcement likely to prompt privacy debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Various courts of the US disagree with you

    To battle a court-precedent you have to climb the judicial mountain to the top.
    What court decisions says the 4th only applies if you are inside your house?
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    Re: Domestic use of aerial drones by law enforcement likely to prompt privacy debate

    Drones should only be used to execute warrants or to respond to specific emergency calls. They should not be flying around with camera's rolling 24/7 recording people at random. In this particular incident, using the drone to avoid risking life was a good call.

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    Re: Domestic use of aerial drones by law enforcement likely to prompt privacy debate

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Which is the 4th amendment?

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

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    The right of the people to be secure only in their houses with the tinted windows, windows shut,blinds and curtains shut, doors locks, and x-ray thermal imaging proof walls and roof.
    But if a warrant for seach has been issued, as it seems to have been done in this case, doesn't the second part of that amendment kick in, allowing the search?
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    Re: Domestic use of aerial drones by law enforcement likely to prompt privacy debate

    I don't see what the big deal is, really. The guys used it to execute a search warrant. I don't see how using a drone is all that much different from using a helicopter. I would say it would be a breach of privacy if they started fitting infrared or thermal imaging systems.

    BTW, this is a Wasp:


    I really don't think this thing is actually capable of hovering outside your window...

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    Re: Domestic use of aerial drones by law enforcement likely to prompt privacy debate


    I really donít think this is capable of incorporating a camera, GPS and all the functions of a PDA.

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    Re: Domestic use of aerial drones by law enforcement likely to prompt privacy debate

    Quote Originally Posted by Befuddled_Stoner View Post

    I really don’t think this is capable of incorporating a camera, GPS and all the functions of a PDA.
    You're right. It's not. Neither is the Wasp capable of hovering. Now I DID say that if they were to fit infrared of thermal imaging equipment onto drones that it could potentially be a breach of privacy. That is not the case here.

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