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    WikiLeaks: 1 Percent of Trove Published

    Nearly two months after WikiLeaks outraged the U.S. government by launching the release of a massive compendium of diplomatic documents, the secret-spilling website has published 2,628 U.S. State Department cables — just over 1 percent of its trove of 251,287 documents.
    And much more is to be released. And I am on both sides of this issue. Why? Because there are actually two issues here.

    1) On the one hand, releasing names of those who cooperated with the US in the war on terror, thus putting them and their families at risk, is unconscionable. People should be going to jail for that.

    2) On the other hand, as a member of "We the People", I have the God damn right to know just what the hell my leaders are doing in my name. My leaders do not own the United States of America, and they do not have the right to do things in secret, behind my back. They work for ME, and this is MY damn country. It doesn't belong to the CIA, General Electric, President Obama, George Bush, or any other entity except the people of the United States of America, of which I am a member. This is MY damn country, and I demand transparency.

    2 months after the leak, and there are still almost a quarter of a million documents yet to be released. Let them be released, and let the chips fall where they may. The American people, for the first time in decades, may have the opportunity to see just how far the rot is ingrained in the apple. And I believe that this is what is scaring the bejesus out of those who claim to be our leaders.

    Let it leak, and let those would be rulers of the people face the consequences of their actions. It's already hit the fan, and I believe that we have not even seen the tip of the iceberg yet. Well, it's time to see the whole damn thing, for the sake of our nation, and "We the People".

    Once again - MY DAMN COUNTRY!

    Article is here.

    This has been another thread in the DanaRhea rant series. Thanx for listening.
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    Re: WikiLeaks: 1 Percent of Trove Published

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    And much more is to be released. And I am on both sides of this issue. Why? Because there are actually two issues here.

    1) On the one hand, releasing names of those who cooperated with the US in the war on terror, thus putting them and their families at risk, is unconscionable. People should be going to jail for that.

    2) On the other hand, as a member of "We the People", I have the God damn right to know just what the hell my leaders are doing in my name. My leaders do not own the United States of America, and they do not have the right to do things in secret, behind my back. They work for ME, and this is MY damn country. It doesn't belong to the CIA, General Electric, President Obama, George Bush, or any other entity except the people of the United States of America, of which I am a member. This is MY damn country, and I demand transparency.

    2 months after the leak, and there are still almost a quarter of a million documents yet to be released. Let them be released, and let the chips fall where they may. The American people, for the first time in decades, may have the opportunity to see just how far the rot is ingrained in the apple. And I believe that this is what is scaring the bejesus out of those who claim to be our leaders.

    Let it leak, and let those would be rulers of the people face the consequences of their actions. It's already hit the fan, and I believe that we have not even seen the tip of the iceberg yet. Well, it's time to see the whole damn thing, for the sake of our nation, and "We the People".

    Once again - MY DAMN COUNTRY!

    Article is here.

    This has been another thread in the DanaRhea rant series. Thanx for listening.
    As usual, you had to spoil a perfectly good article by mention George Bush again. You just can't help your hackery. Un****ing believeable.
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    Re: WikiLeaks: 1 Percent of Trove Published

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    As usual, you had to spoil a perfectly good article by mention George Bush again. You just can't help your hackery. Un****ing believeable.
    Geez, here comes the guy who loves to call people poopy heads. Of course, he didn't care to post that I also included Obama in the mix. Now where does the hackery come in? Because I mentioned both Bush and Obama in the same sentence? Holy hackery, Batman. DanaRhea has mentioned both Bush and Obama. Therefore he is a partisan hack of the party of.......

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    Re: WikiLeaks: 1 Percent of Trove Published

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    And much more is to be released. And I am on both sides of this issue. Why? Because there are actually two issues here.

    1) On the one hand, releasing names of those who cooperated with the US in the war on terror, thus putting them and their families at risk, is unconscionable. People should be going to jail for that.

    2) On the other hand, as a member of "We the People", I have the God damn right to know just what the hell my leaders are doing in my name. My leaders do not own the United States of America, and they do not have the right to do things in secret, behind my back. They work for ME, and this is MY damn country. It doesn't belong to the CIA, General Electric, President Obama, George Bush, or any other entity except the people of the United States of America, of which I am a member. This is MY damn country, and I demand transparency.

    2 months after the leak, and there are still almost a quarter of a million documents yet to be released. Let them be released, and let the chips fall where they may. The American people, for the first time in decades, may have the opportunity to see just how far the rot is ingrained in the apple. And I believe that this is what is scaring the bejesus out of those who claim to be our leaders.

    Let it leak, and let those would be rulers of the people face the consequences of their actions. It's already hit the fan, and I believe that we have not even seen the tip of the iceberg yet. Well, it's time to see the whole damn thing, for the sake of our nation, and "We the People".

    Once again - MY DAMN COUNTRY!

    Article is here.

    This has been another thread in the DanaRhea rant series. Thanx for listening.
    Therein lies the problem: you're right to know doesn't over shadow the importance to keep this information quiet. You may have the right to know, but you don't have a need to know and Julian Assange doesn't have the authority to say what should be released and what shouldn't.
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    Re: WikiLeaks: 1 Percent of Trove Published

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Therein lies the problem: you're right to know doesn't over shadow the importance to keep this information quiet. You may have the right to know, but you don't have a need to know and Julian Assange doesn't have the authority to say what should be released and what shouldn't.
    Not gonna argue with you there.

    However.

    I say, release it all.

    Or release nothing.

    Assange can't have both.

    Personally, I don't really know which way to go on this. I'd just wanna see what would happen if he released it all, be fun to watch the fireworkers that's for sure.

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    Re: WikiLeaks: 1 Percent of Trove Published

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Not gonna argue with you there.

    However.

    I say, release it all.

    Or release nothing.

    Assange can't have both.

    Personally, I don't really know which way to go on this. I'd just wanna see what would happen if he released it all, be fun to watch the fireworkers that's for sure.
    What I would like to know, is the truth about how he got his hands on all this information. He didn't get it all from some low life Army private.
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    Re: WikiLeaks: 1 Percent of Trove Published

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    What I would like to know, is the truth about how he got his hands on all this information. He didn't get it all from some low life Army private.
    Not all of it is military secrets my friend.

    And not all of it is about your country either.

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    Re: WikiLeaks: 1 Percent of Trove Published

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Not all of it is military secrets my friend.

    And not all of it is about your country either.
    That's exactly why I say that Assange didn't get all this information from an Army private. This came from someone much higher up the food chain.
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    Re: WikiLeaks: 1 Percent of Trove Published

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's exactly why I say that Assange didn't get all this information from an Army private. This came from someone much higher up the food chain.
    Do you have any idea how many people have Top Secret Clearance in the US?

    I know where you're going with this by the way.

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    Re: WikiLeaks: 1 Percent of Trove Published

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Do you have any idea how many people have Top Secret Clearance in the US?
    There are thousands, but security clearances work on a need to know basis.

    Example: the armor thickness of an M-1 tank is classified. When I was in the service, my security clearance was high enough to know that information, but I didn't need to know, so I wasn't allowed to know. See how that works?

    I know where you're going with this by the way.
    Oh really? Ok, where am I going?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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