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WikiLeaks: 1 Percent of Trove Published

danarhea

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Nearly two months after WikiLeaks outraged the U.S. government by launching the release of a massive compendium of diplomatic documents, the secret-spilling website has published 2,628 U.S. State Department cables — just over 1 percent of its trove of 251,287 documents.

And much more is to be released. And I am on both sides of this issue. Why? Because there are actually two issues here.

1) On the one hand, releasing names of those who cooperated with the US in the war on terror, thus putting them and their families at risk, is unconscionable. People should be going to jail for that.

2) On the other hand, as a member of "We the People", I have the God damn right to know just what the hell my leaders are doing in my name. My leaders do not own the United States of America, and they do not have the right to do things in secret, behind my back. They work for ME, and this is MY damn country. It doesn't belong to the CIA, General Electric, President Obama, George Bush, or any other entity except the people of the United States of America, of which I am a member. This is MY damn country, and I demand transparency.

2 months after the leak, and there are still almost a quarter of a million documents yet to be released. Let them be released, and let the chips fall where they may. The American people, for the first time in decades, may have the opportunity to see just how far the rot is ingrained in the apple. And I believe that this is what is scaring the bejesus out of those who claim to be our leaders.

Let it leak, and let those would be rulers of the people face the consequences of their actions. It's already hit the fan, and I believe that we have not even seen the tip of the iceberg yet. Well, it's time to see the whole damn thing, for the sake of our nation, and "We the People".

Once again - MY DAMN COUNTRY!

Article is here.

This has been another thread in the DanaRhea rant series. Thanx for listening. :mrgreen:
 
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And much more is to be released. And I am on both sides of this issue. Why? Because there are actually two issues here.

1) On the one hand, releasing names of those who cooperated with the US in the war on terror, thus putting them and their families at risk, is unconscionable. People should be going to jail for that.

2) On the other hand, as a member of "We the People", I have the God damn right to know just what the hell my leaders are doing in my name. My leaders do not own the United States of America, and they do not have the right to do things in secret, behind my back. They work for ME, and this is MY damn country. It doesn't belong to the CIA, General Electric, President Obama, George Bush, or any other entity except the people of the United States of America, of which I am a member. This is MY damn country, and I demand transparency.

2 months after the leak, and there are still almost a quarter of a million documents yet to be released. Let them be released, and let the chips fall where they may. The American people, for the first time in decades, may have the opportunity to see just how far the rot is ingrained in the apple. And I believe that this is what is scaring the bejesus out of those who claim to be our leaders.

Let it leak, and let those would be rulers of the people face the consequences of their actions. It's already hit the fan, and I believe that we have not even seen the tip of the iceberg yet. Well, it's time to see the whole damn thing, for the sake of our nation, and "We the People".

Once again - MY DAMN COUNTRY!

Article is here.

This has been another thread in the DanaRhea rant series. Thanx for listening. :mrgreen:

As usual, you had to spoil a perfectly good article by mention George Bush again. You just can't help your hackery. Un****ing believeable. :doh
 
As usual, you had to spoil a perfectly good article by mention George Bush again. You just can't help your hackery. Un****ing believeable. :doh

Geez, here comes the guy who loves to call people poopy heads. Of course, he didn't care to post that I also included Obama in the mix. Now where does the hackery come in? Because I mentioned both Bush and Obama in the same sentence? Holy hackery, Batman. DanaRhea has mentioned both Bush and Obama. Therefore he is a partisan hack of the party of.......

<AIIIIIEEEEEE!!!>

Grab yourself a cup of coffee, American. It's very early in the morning, and I don't think you are awake yet. :mrgreen:
 
And much more is to be released. And I am on both sides of this issue. Why? Because there are actually two issues here.

1) On the one hand, releasing names of those who cooperated with the US in the war on terror, thus putting them and their families at risk, is unconscionable. People should be going to jail for that.

2) On the other hand, as a member of "We the People", I have the God damn right to know just what the hell my leaders are doing in my name. My leaders do not own the United States of America, and they do not have the right to do things in secret, behind my back. They work for ME, and this is MY damn country. It doesn't belong to the CIA, General Electric, President Obama, George Bush, or any other entity except the people of the United States of America, of which I am a member. This is MY damn country, and I demand transparency.

2 months after the leak, and there are still almost a quarter of a million documents yet to be released. Let them be released, and let the chips fall where they may. The American people, for the first time in decades, may have the opportunity to see just how far the rot is ingrained in the apple. And I believe that this is what is scaring the bejesus out of those who claim to be our leaders.

Let it leak, and let those would be rulers of the people face the consequences of their actions. It's already hit the fan, and I believe that we have not even seen the tip of the iceberg yet. Well, it's time to see the whole damn thing, for the sake of our nation, and "We the People".

Once again - MY DAMN COUNTRY!

Article is here.

This has been another thread in the DanaRhea rant series. Thanx for listening. :mrgreen:

Therein lies the problem: you're right to know doesn't over shadow the importance to keep this information quiet. You may have the right to know, but you don't have a need to know and Julian Assange doesn't have the authority to say what should be released and what shouldn't.
 
Therein lies the problem: you're right to know doesn't over shadow the importance to keep this information quiet. You may have the right to know, but you don't have a need to know and Julian Assange doesn't have the authority to say what should be released and what shouldn't.

Not gonna argue with you there.

However.

I say, release it all.

Or release nothing.

Assange can't have both.

Personally, I don't really know which way to go on this. I'd just wanna see what would happen if he released it all, be fun to watch the fireworkers that's for sure.
 
Not gonna argue with you there.

However.

I say, release it all.

Or release nothing.

Assange can't have both.

Personally, I don't really know which way to go on this. I'd just wanna see what would happen if he released it all, be fun to watch the fireworkers that's for sure.

What I would like to know, is the truth about how he got his hands on all this information. He didn't get it all from some low life Army private.
 
What I would like to know, is the truth about how he got his hands on all this information. He didn't get it all from some low life Army private.

Not all of it is military secrets my friend.

And not all of it is about your country either.
 
Not all of it is military secrets my friend.

And not all of it is about your country either.

That's exactly why I say that Assange didn't get all this information from an Army private. This came from someone much higher up the food chain.
 
That's exactly why I say that Assange didn't get all this information from an Army private. This came from someone much higher up the food chain.

Do you have any idea how many people have Top Secret Clearance in the US?

I know where you're going with this by the way.
 
Do you have any idea how many people have Top Secret Clearance in the US?

There are thousands, but security clearances work on a need to know basis.

Example: the armor thickness of an M-1 tank is classified. When I was in the service, my security clearance was high enough to know that information, but I didn't need to know, so I wasn't allowed to know. See how that works?

I know where you're going with this by the way.

Oh really? Ok, where am I going?
 
2) On the other hand, as a member of "We the People", I have the God damn right to know just what the hell my leaders are doing in my name. My leaders do not own the United States of America, and they do not have the right to do things in secret, behind my back. They work for ME, and this is MY damn country. It doesn't belong to the CIA, General Electric, President Obama, George Bush, or any other entity except the people of the United States of America, of which I am a member. This is MY damn country, and I demand transparency.

Silly position. There are state secrets. There need to be state secrets. Get over it. Swear to God, sorry you didn't get the D-Day memo.

2 months after the leak, and there are still almost a quarter of a million documents yet to be released. Let them be released, and let the chips fall where they may. The American people, for the first time in decades, may have the opportunity to see just how far the rot is ingrained in the apple. And I believe that this is what is scaring the bejesus out of those who claim to be our leaders.

Let it leak, and let those would be rulers of the people face the consequences of their actions. It's already hit the fan, and I believe that we have not even seen the tip of the iceberg yet. Well, it's time to see the whole damn thing, for the sake of our nation, and "We the People".

Once again - MY DAMN COUNTRY!

This has been another thread in the DanaRhea rant series. Thanx for listening. :mrgreen:

Agreed. And you're welcome. ;-)
 
There are thousands, but security clearances work on a need to know basis.

Example: the armor thickness of an M-1 tank is classified. When I was in the service, my security clearance was high enough to know that information, but I didn't need to know, so I wasn't allowed to know. See how that works?

Supposedly hundreds of thousands, in and outside of the government.

You think information that widespread isn't going to leak?

Oh really? Ok, where am I going?

I have a feeling you might be inclined to implicate Obama administration officials :ssst:
 
Supposedly hundreds of thousands, in and outside of the government.

You think information that widespread isn't going to leak?

It never did before. What's different about this leak?



I have a feeling you might be inclined to implicate Obama administration officials :ssst:

Of course you do!! You had to make this about ****ing Obama! Couldn't resist, could you?
 
You're not seriously saying these are comparable?[\quote]

Ones a leak... And the others a leak....


And, of course you're going to automatically make the asssumption that I'm talking about Obama. Libbos can't resist making everything about Obama.

The irony of this statement is astounding.

Says the person who blamed Obama for the way flags were set up...

(even though it's in line with the flag code.)
 
Ones a leak... And the others a leak....

One leak is far more complex than the other. I'll restate mey point, Assange got his hands on way more information than a simple Army private has access to.




The irony of this statement is astounding.

Says the person who blamed Obama for the way flags were set up...

(even though it's in line with the flag code.)

You know how whiney this is? Really, do ya?

Look dude, this is America. We have the right to criticize and question our government. In fact, it's our patriotic duty to do so. Questioning my government isn't exclusively mutual with criticizing Obama. Mostly, it's nothing personal, so stop acting so offended.
 
One leak is far more complex than the other. I'll restate mey point, Assange got his hands on way more information than a simple Army private has access to.

I don't doubt it. But fundamentally, hundreds of thousands of people have access to top secret information, thousands to diplomatic cables and documents. Are you really niave enough to think that with all this access available, that things weren't gonna slip.

Am I doubting someone quite high up could have leaked some stuff? Nope. But it sounds like you wanna make a conspiracy out of this.


You know how whiney this is? Really, do ya?

Look dude, this is America. We have the right to criticize and question our government. In fact, it's our patriotic duty to do so. Questioning my government isn't exclusively mutual with criticizing Obama. Mostly, it's nothing personal, so stop acting so offended.

Did I say you didn't have that right?

And did I say I was offended?

What you do sometimes isn't critisizing government. It's petty partisanship aimed at causing a ruckus.

Patriotic eh? Guess not patriotic enough to know your own flag code... :2razz:

Relax buddy just playin...

:peace
 
One leak is far more complex than the other. I'll restate mey point, Assange got his hands on way more information than a simple Army private has access to.






You know how whiney this is? Really, do ya?

Look dude, this is America. We have the right to criticize and question our government. In fact, it's our patriotic duty to do so. Questioning my government isn't exclusively mutual with criticizing Obama. Mostly, it's nothing personal, so stop acting so offended.

That's funny. When Bush was in power, I was called anti-American for critisizing the government, but now that Obama is in power, critisizing the government seems to be the American thing to do. Well, at least I am consistent. :mrgreen:
 
That's funny. When Bush was in power, I was called anti-American for critisizing the government, but now that Obama is in power, critisizing the government seems to be the American thing to do. Well, at least I am consistent. :mrgreen:

You were never called un-American by me, brother. That should help you sleep easier.
 
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