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    GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    The Republican Party, as a brand, is dead in California.

    That's the eye-opening consensus of a crowd of political observers, lawmakers and strategists - Democrats and Republicans - gathered at a UC Berkeley symposium this weekend to mull over California's defiantly blue status in the wake of a conservative tide that swept the nation in November.
    The way I see it, the Republican Party did this to itself, by throwing it's support, not to any of the Conservatives who were running against Gray Davis, and who could have easily beaten him, but to Arnold Schwartzneggar, an avowed Liberal on many issues. Thus, the introduction of this poison pill into California politics, by the GOP, has tarnished the Conservative brand beyond repair in the near future.

    However, I disagree with the consensus of the political observers. While Conservatism is on life support in California, at the present time, it is not dead. We must look past the next few years, roll up our sleeves, and rebuild the Conservative movement. It will take years, but I believe it can be done. And when it is finally done, the Republican Party must make a promise to never again back a RINO in California. Although the governorship looks out of reach for a while, there are still Congressional districts that can be won. Each one of those is additional insurance that will help the Republican Party stay in control of the House, and that is what is important. There are still red districts in California, and it's more than a few. Some of those are blue for the moment, but with the right direction, they can become red again.

    Time to roll up sleeves and get to work. Yes, I believe that California is still on the table. The GOP brand has no place to go in that state but up, and that is a silver lining in an otherwise very dark cloud of the Republican Party's own making.

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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    Politics is cyclical. The current GOP is indeed dead on arrival in California. I have no doubt they will mount a comeback using smoke and mirrors, lies and deceit, hate and fear, whatever works until they find the right combination for the California electorate.
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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Politics is cyclical. The current GOP is indeed dead on arrival in California. I have no doubt they will mount a comeback using smoke and mirrors, lies and deceit, hate and fear, whatever works until they find the right combination for the California electorate.
    The conversation here is about the GOP not the DNC...
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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    The GoP is pronounced dead in Berkley. I laughed.
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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    Erm, what?

    The Republican party is becoming less popular because a lot of big Republicans in California are moderates and the GOP is swinging away from that.

    I have to laugh at the idea that California is a "deep blue" state though. We're probably one of the more moderate states in the US, I'll never understand why people say California is liberal.
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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    by your standards perhaps they aren't. by general American standards, however, California is reliably dark blue.


    as for the GOP there; California (like Illinois) is zooming off the face of an economic cliff. the crash will be ugly. no offense to California GOPers, but perhaps it's better for the country at large and the republican party in general if the Democratic Party was allowed to put on full display the results of their policies.

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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    by your standards perhaps they aren't. by general American standards, however, California is reliably dark blue.
    Except that isnt true at all.

    Our governors are almost always Republican, we've had to battle over gay marriage, something that shouldnt happen in a supposedly deep blue state. There is a SIGNIFICANT red population in California, most of NorCal is Republican and many areas of SoCal are Republican as well. People tend to think of the four big cities, LA, San Diego, Sacramento, and San Fransisco, as representing the entire state. When in reality, yes these cities tend to be more liberal but that is the case in ANY state; urban areas are much more politically open than rural areas.

    I dont see any justification for calling California liberal.
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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Except that isnt true at all.

    Our governors are almost always Republican, we've had to battle over gay marriage, something that shouldnt happen in a supposedly deep blue state. There is a SIGNIFICANT red population in California, most of NorCal is Republican and many areas of SoCal are Republican as well. People tend to think of the four big cities, LA, San Diego, Sacramento, and San Fransisco, as representing the entire state. When in reality, yes these cities tend to be more liberal but that is the case in ANY state; urban areas are much more politically open than rural areas.

    I dont see any justification for calling California liberal.
    last year was pretty much a historic 'wave' year for Republicans. They flipped the House pretty thoroughly, and took out not a few supposedly 'safe' Democrat seats.

    of the 53 Representatives that California rates in the House of Representatives, after the historic wave of 2010, 18 of them are Republicans.

    of the 2 Senators that California rates in the Senate, neither of them are Republicans.

    hint: if, in a wave year, still only 1/3rd of your districts vote for a Republican.... then you are a blue state.

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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    last year was pretty much a historic 'wave' year for Republicans. They flipped the House pretty thoroughly, and took out not a few supposedly 'safe' Democrat seats.

    of the 53 Representatives that California rates in the House of Representatives, after the historic wave of 2010, 18 of them are Republicans.

    of the 2 Senators that California rates in the Senate, neither of them are Republicans.

    hint: if, in a wave year, still only 1/3rd of your districts vote for a Republican.... then you are a blue state.
    It was not historic, it's happened every year after an election.
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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    The whole west coast, the northeast, and some places inbetween are pretty much lost to the gop. The gop doesn't represent their values. The dnc does.
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