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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Take entitlements? That kind of flies in the face of Conservatism, don't you think?
    My friend, keep your eye on the prize. Whatever defeats our mortal enemies is justified as long as it is not a violation of the law.

    Bring them down. Burden them, vex them, harass them, demoralize them, show them there is no hope.

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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    My friend, keep your eye on the prize. Whatever defeats our mortal enemies is justified as long as it is not a violation of the law.

    Bring them down. Burden them, vex them, harass them, demoralize them, show them there is no hope.
    Dont you think that this kind of adversarial attitude towards others in politics is somewhat destructive to the system as a whole?
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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    Are you seriously advocating causing harm and misery to further an agenda?
    One vision must die so that another can be born. Renewal and rebirth are only available to the phoenix.

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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoplite View Post
    Dont you think that this kind of adversarial attitude towards others in politics is somewhat destructive to the system as a whole?
    Yup.


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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    My friend, keep your eye on the prize. Whatever defeats our mortal enemies is justified as long as it is not a violation of the law.

    Bring them down. Burden them, vex them, harass them, demoralize them, show them there is no hope.
    OK, this makes sense. Let's do it, but YOU be the one to go on welfare and I will be the one to call you a lazy Liberal.
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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    OK, this makes sense. Let's do it, but YOU be the one to go on welfare and I will be the one to call you a lazy Liberal.
    I wasn't thinking about welfare. I was thinking about all the entitlement services for the elderly, like ParaTransit where the County comes to pick you up and drive you around.

    I could hop in the car, but that wouldn't impose a burden on the govt. I want them to drive me everywhere. And I want to serve on Senior Commissions so I can lobby local govt. for more spending on people like me who don't need it. Get it?

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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    I respectfully differ on the best thing for old conservatives to do. Young conservatives should save themselves and their families by leaving. Old conservatives should stay and gum up the works. Demand entitlements. Put stress on the state's budget. Demoralize young leftists with the tax burden they bear in order to give us extra pocket money for greens fees. **** them up every way possible.
    Good call...let the old guys create a diversion to give the younger kids a better chance of escape!

    Californians saw the debacle that was Gray Davis and a 40 billion dollar budget hole, recalled him, then elected a guy to put them in a 50 billion dollar hole. Someone MIGHT want to examine those expendatures.

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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    ahnold tried, got shellacked, gave up

    in the special election of may, 05, the gubernator sponsored four extremely sensible, conservative propositions, trying to go over sacto's head to the voters

    led by the nurses, CA kicked ahnold's ass

    spending caps, teacher tenure reform, parental notification before teenage abortions, union dues used for political purposes only with express permission of members...

    the gub went 0 for 4

    since then, he's been largely irrelevant

    my state is bankrupt, has been for the better part of a decade

    worse, CA is hopeless, paralyzed by despair, no one looks to sacto for solutions

    not anymore, not for a long time

    the special of 09 registered complete disgust with the ruling class out here on the left coast

    props 1a thru 1e---increased contributions to rainy day fund, increased funding for primary ed, borrowing from future lottery proceeds, reallocation of cig tax, one time adjustment of state income tax---backed by the establishment entire, from ahnold to bustamente to the cta and seiu to the msm's...

    they fell by margins of 30, 24, 28, 32 and 32, respectively

    my state has given up, sacto's assemblies have given up

    as for moonbeam:



    Jerry Brown takes a big risk - Andy Barr - POLITICO.com

    CA was the only state in the union effectively to resist the wave that made tsunami tuesday, it is still strangely blue

    but change is worldwide, liberal methodologies from greece to los angeles have flatly failed

    cuz if the eu can turn...

    austerity is the new byword

    and if moonbeam can't pull off his gambit, a very far reach...

    he's depending on a special election this june to get his taxes

    watch and see

    on another note, redistricting, more crudely called gerrymandering, has been taken away from the legislature and given instead to an "independent" panel

    lines could not be drawn more advantageously for dems out here than they've been for a generation

    the new boundaries can do nothing but help the minority CA

    it's pensions and medicaid that are killing us

    CA declares fiscal emegency

    ie, more failed liberal experiments

    stay up
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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    But within that sea of blue are oases of red. Run Conservatives in those districts and, while the state may stay blue, more representatives are added to the House. This is where I believe a difference can be made. There are diamonds for the taking, in 2012, in that thar rough.
    ......Good luck with that. Ultimately the mexican/american population will tip the scales toward the democratic party.
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    Re: GOP brand pronounced dead in deep-blue California

    Quote Originally Posted by Dutch View Post
    Don't worry. All you have to do is raise, smoke, and tax marijuana. That'll save the day.
    California will never legalize marijuana. I represent several growers. The money that defeated the marijuana legalization proposition came from Mexican cartels and Medical Marijuana Dispensaries. They will never allow marijuana to be legalized and taxed. Mexico runs California and there is absolutely nothing that can be done to resist them.

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