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Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

OscarB63 said:
it was way more than a few dozen votes and every single recount showed Gore lost. every independent study done showed that Bush won and 11 years later you still hear some libtards pissing and moaning that Bush stole the election.

11 freakin years, and then they have the nerve to criticize the birfers for not letting go of the "BC" issue after only 2.

smacks a bit of hypocrisy.

and FWIW, you didn't see the Pubs crying for recounts in any of the states that Gore barely won did you?
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Bush won, but the American people lost. Had Gore won we would not have invaded Iraq costing almost a trillion dollars, 9/11 may not have happened, the debt would not have doubled and the economy wouldn't have collapsed.
 
Red Crow said:
The signature was stamped. It's a fake.
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and you know this because.???????

Perhaps that is the wrong question. Sorry.

You BELIEVE this because....???????? And I know the answer already. Thank you.
 
Dirty Harry said:
Had Gore won we would not have invaded Iraq costing almost a trillion dollars, 9/11 would have happened anyway (we just wouldn't have done anything about it), the debt would have tripled and the economy would have collapsed much sooner.
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reality check: the planning and preparation for 9/11 was started during the last Clinton term. 9/11 was going to happen no matter who won the 2000 election. (unless, of course, your contention is that Gore would've somehow found out about it and stopped it.)
 
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apdst said:
Well, obviously you didn't read it.
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Read every word of it. Nothing it it provides proof of this statement

If CNN hadn't called the polls closed two hours early and cost Bush 50,000 votes, there wouldn't have been any need for that nut-roll.
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Try linking to the findings of the Congressional investigation being called for in the article with the definitive finding that supports your claim.
 
Dirty Harry said:
Bush won, but the American people lost. Had Gore won we would not have invaded Iraq costing almost a trillion dollars
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Yeah and Gore would have been apologizing for the United States causing 9/11.


9/11 may not have happened, the debt would not have doubled and the economy wouldn't have collapsed.
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:lamo
 
haymarket said:
And you are the Great and Powerful Infallible One Who Has Never Made A Mistake?
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I'm often told by many Libbos that I have no credibility, because I supposedly make mistakes all the time. According to Redress, I'm always wrong. Just holding factcheck to the same standard.

While we're on the subject, has factcheck admitted that they were wrong about Bush being AWOL?
 
apdst said:
Yeah and Gore would have been apologizing for the United States causing 9/11.





:lamo
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yeah, he probably would've wanted to pay $$$$$$ to the families of the hijackers to appease them.
 
apdst said:
Yeah and Gore would have been apologizing for the United States causing 9/11.




:lamo
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It probably wouldn't have happened. Having been part of the last administration Gore would have been more vigilant in protecting the country. Bush was clueless and ignored all the warnings.
 
Dirty Harry said:
It probably wouldn't have happened. Having been part of the last administration Gore would have been more vigilant in protecting the country. Bush was clueless and ignored all the warnings.
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We can Monday Morning Airmchair Quarterback all we want. I don't blame 9/11 on Bush or anyone else. You can try to stop crazy, but it usually doesn't work. But I do hold him accountable for how he responded and conducted his foreign policy afterwards.
 
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Dirty Harry said:
It probably wouldn't have happened.
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So, in 8 months, Gore would have made the Islamofacists fall in love with America and dissolve AQ?

Having been part of the last administration Gore would have been more vigilant in protecting the country. Bush was clueless and ignored all the warnings.
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What warnings?
 
Dirty Harry said:
It probably wouldn't have happened. Having been part of the last administration Gore would have been more vigilant in protecting the country. Bush was clueless and ignored all the warnings.
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you mean vigilant like Clinton, under whose watch the hijackers entered the country and started training in the first place? that is ****ing rich :lamo
 
StillBallin75 said:
We can Monday Morning Airmchair Quarterback all we want. I don't blame 9/11 on Bush or anyone else. But I do hold him accountable for how he responded and conducted his foreign policy afterwards.
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He attacked the attackers. What's wrong with that?
 
OscarB63 said:
you mean vigilant like Clinton, under whose watch the hijackers entered the country and started training in the first place? that is ****ing rich :lamo
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Along with two embasssies blown to hell by AQ.
 
StillBallin75 said:
More or less referring to Iraq and how that drained resources from the real fight in Afghanistan.
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What resources were drained? Mechanized units were sent to Iraq. Mech units would be useless in Afghanistan. The Soviets proved that for us.
 
:2bigcry: but...but...but....Bush lied people died :2bigcry:
 
apdst said:
What resources were drained? Mechanized units were sent to Iraq. Mech units would be useless in Afghanistan. The Soviets proved that for us.
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Mech units still have trained infantry, no? They can operate as dismounts, right? But I was referring in general to economic and manpower resources.
 
apdst said:
Along with two embasssies blown to hell by AQ.
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The worst attack on US soil happened on Bush's watch. Eight months after he took office. He was totally inept at protecting the US. A monkey could have done a better job. Even Gore could have.
 
StillBallin75 said:
Mech units still have trained infantry, no? They can operate as dismounts, right? But I was referring in general to economic and manpower resources.
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Show us which units were redeployed from Afghanistan to Iraq.
 
Dirty Harry said:
The worst attack on US soil happened on Bush's watch. Eight months after he took office. He was totally inept at protecting the US.
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Where did he go wrong? We have to look at the facts. The warnings weren't specific enough, as far as the when and the where, to set up a proper defense. What was Bush to do? Splash civilian aircraft? That ain't gonna happen. No president is going to do that and I wouldn't blame them.


A monkey could have done a better job. Even Gore could have.
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Equating Gore to a Monkey? :lamo
 
Dirty Harry said:
The worst attack on US soil happened on Bush's watch. Eight months after he took office. He was totally inept at protecting the US. A monkey could have done a better job. Even Gore could have.
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and there's the kicker.

it all started under Clinton/Gore's watch and they did absolutely ZERO to stop/prevent it. had Gore won, 9/11 would have still happened and he would've pissed himself in his rush to apologize to the Arab world for "forcing" them to attack us.
 
while Clinton was in the oval office getting sucked
our troops were in Somalia getting ****ed
 
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