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Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

apdst said:
They were making a criticism based on false information. They were eager to believe out of their hatred for Bush.

When Bush was in office, the trufers would have believed anything negative about Bush. The AWOL brew-ha-ha proves it.
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No, the only false information I know of is the memo Rather used, which the people in the know verified that while he didn't write the memo it was accurate of his thoughts. But the NYT's made the case without the memo and without the misinformation. So, I think you're mistaken here.
 
I haven't read all the posts, but has someone actually injected race into this discussion?

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Boo Radley said:
No, the only false information I know of is the memo Rather used, which the people in the know verified that while he didn't write the memo it was accurate of his thoughts. But the NYT's made the case without the memo and without the misinformation. So, I think you're mistaken here.
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No one ever made any credible case that Bush was ever AWOL from his unit. The only evidence that could prove that, would be a morning report, listing him as absent without leave. A genuine morning report, not a fake like we were shown.

Other than that, I know of no other documentation that exists in the military that documents a soldier's whereabouts.
 
zimmer said:
I haven't read all the posts, but has someone actually injected race into this discussion?

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boo radley. even though refuses to admit it openly, he feels that the whole birther movement is based on racism
 
zimmer said:
I haven't read all the posts, but has someone actually injected race into this discussion?

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Of course! It was only a matter of time. You know that.
 
OscarB63 said:
boo radley. even though refuses to admit it openly, he feels that the whole birther movement is based on racism
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No. As I stated early on, it's jsut stupid. Race came up later, and I said it was a fair question. Be honest now.
 
Boo Radley said:
No. As I stated early on, it's jsut stupid. Race came up later, and I said it was a fair question. Be honest now.
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and every time anyone has stated that it isn't about racism you have argued against them.
 
OscarB63 said:
boo radley. even though refuses to admit it openly, he feels that the whole birther movement is based on racism
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apdst said:
Of course! It was only a matter of time. You know that.
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The value of free speech reveals some folks just can't see the argument for the race card blocking their view.

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OscarB63 said:
and every time anyone has stated that it isn't about racism you have argued against them.
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No. I argued agianst your reasoning, which is flawed IMHO. That's not the same thing.
 
zimmer said:
The value of free speech reveals some folks just can't see the argument for the race card blocking their view.

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There is no legitimate Birther argument. Sorry. :coffeepap
 
Boo Radley said:
No. I argued agianst your reasoning, which is flawed IMHO. That's not the same thing.
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You claim that birfers are birfers, because they're racists and insist that there is actual proof that Bush was AWOL from the ANG; speaking of flawed reasoning.
 
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Time to move on from the racist thing. The points have been made, back to the topic please.
 
apdst said:
You claim that birfers are birfers, because they're racists and insist that there is actual proof that Bush was AWOL from the ANG; speaking of flawed reasoning.
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I never said they were racists. Nor does Bush have anything to do with birthers, so you're kind of leaping aaround there fella. AWOL is a specific charge, and not one leveled against him, likel for a many reasons, which could include his father's staute. But, the case was made that he was missing.
 
Boo Radley said:
I never said they were racists. Nor does Bush have anything to do with birthers, so you're kind of leaping aaround there fella. AWOL is a specific charge, and not one leveled against him, likel for a many reasons, which could include his father's staute. But, the case was made that he was missing.
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ah...he wasn't awol...he just disappeared for a while without telling anyone. :roll:


birf, birf, birf birf, birf birf birf
 
Boo Radley said:
There is no legitimate Birther argument. Sorry. :coffeepap
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Tell that to Chris Matthews or Governor Abercrombie. The first took a while to follow my line of thinking (an I think he is US born but should clear this up), the latter has made a big shaddup after stating he would clear this sucker up.

President Transparency's wound remains open. He can fix it in a NY minute.

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zimmer said:
Tell that to Chris Matthews or Governor Abercrombie. The former took a while to follow my line of thinking (an I think he is US born but should clear this up), the latter has made a big shaddup after stating he would clear this sucker up.

President Transparency's wound remains open.

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I have no trouble telling them. Seriously, stupid is stupid no matter who does it.
 
OscarB63 said:
ah...he wasn't awol...he just disappeared for a while without telling anyone. :roll:


birf, birf, birf birf, birf birf birf
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techincally, AWOL, but not charged. No charges were ever leveled that I know of. But it does speak to priviledged, something not likely to happen to you or me.
 
Boo Radley said:
I never said they were racists. Nor does Bush have anything to do with birthers, so you're kind of leaping aaround there fella. AWOL is a specific charge, and not one leveled against him, likel for a many reasons, which could include his father's staute. But, the case was made that he was missing.
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Let me say it again: there was no credible case made that Bush was ever AWOL, missing, or whatever term you want to apply to it.
 
Boo Radley said:
techincally, AWOL, but not charged. No charges were ever leveled that I know of. But it does speak to priviledged, something not likely to happen to you or me.
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if he wasn't charged, he wasn't AWOL, there is no "technically". there has never been any legitimate proof put forward that Bush was illegally missing.

just as with the birffers, it's all bull****, smoke and mirrors, partisan hackery and only fools and hacks buy into it.
 
Boo Radley said:
techincally, AWOL, but not charged. No charges were ever leveled that I know of. But it does speak to priviledged, something not likely to happen to you or me.
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Not even technically! :lamo

As long as his unit commander knew where he was and didn't officially list him ass AWOL, then he wasn't AWOL. Not technically, kinda-sorta, nor a little AWOL.
 
zimmer said:
Tell that to Chris Matthews or Governor Abercrombie. The first took a while to follow my line of thinking (an I think he is US born but should clear this up), the latter has made a big shaddup after stating he would clear this sucker up.

President Transparency's wound remains open. He can fix it in a NY minute.

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Another logical fallacy. Just because they believe it might be true is not evidence that it is true. That is the problem with birther arguments, they are not based on any real evidence.
 
apdst said:
Let me say it again: there was no credible case made that Bush was ever AWOL, missing, or whatever term you want to apply to it.
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INcorrect. NYT's made a good case. Sorry.
 
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