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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Honestly, I don't know anyone who thinks Bush himself PLANNED 9/11. However, you don't have to actually plan it to allow it to occur to push your political agenda. If I had to, I could clearly show you what I knew before 9/11 occured. I cannot help but wonder why Bush can't or won't.
    Oh yeah? What did you know before 9/11? Please provide proof. Bet I can get my birth certificate first. There's a difference between asking someone to prove a negative assertion (e.g. I didn't know 9/11 was going to happen) and a positive one (I was born in the US).
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

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    Oh yeah? What did you know before 9/11? Please provide proof.
    Nothing at all about any attacks. I have no recorded contact with any government intelligence officials, records of being a college student in Newport News with little to no history of interest in politics.

    Bet I can get my birth certificate first
    You could show me a birth certificate. Meh, its fake. I don't believe its real. Its a forgery. You bought it off some online store or some guy in a back alley. Its a fake one gotten illegally from someone misusing the system. Its an obvious forgery.

    I demand you present even more proof than just your birth certificate.

    See, I can be just like the birthers. Strangely, just like the truther's too.

    The belief that somehow throughout his near decade of time in the public service, and all through the campaign, the major political groups both backing him and opposed him could not properly vet him and check these things is ridiculous. Why should he keep bothering with this BS? Because a bunch of conpsiracy nuts demand for more "evidence" when there's been plenty more than they deserve already shown to them and all of it ignored or rebuffed in stereotypical conspiracy theorist fashion of "Um...no, that's not good enough. Um, it could be a fake, or...well...we want MORE! MORE proof!"

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Shouldn't this thread be moved to conspiracy theories?

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    It has been made plain by the behavior and arguments of many of those who continue to trumpet this issue that nothing the President does will satisfy their concerns about his citizenship.

    Taking further action will only give the most ardent of his detractors more pieces of paper to accuse Hawaii's government of forging.

    When you're in a lose-lose situation, you pick the loss that requires the least effort so as to preserve your energy for battles you can actually win.
    I can imagine the possible future where this document is released and the conspiracy theorists will just insist it was faked. Why else did it take so long for it to be released?

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I can imagine the possible future where this document is released and the conspiracy theorists will just insist it was faked. Why else did it take so long for it to be released?
    Why won't the government be more transparent about 9/11!? What are they hiding?

    -9/11 report is released-

    This report is just white wash! Its obviously just disguising the truth. It doesn't counter or FACTS!

    -Poular mechanics debunks their "facts"-

    They're science is faulty! They're just sheep who are going along with the government story. There's still questions man! QUESTIONS!

    and the cycle goes on and on...

    Conspiracy Theorists don't care about truth, they care about their agenda and their conspiracy. Anything can be denied if you wish to ignore reality, common sense, and logic and grasp at straws...which is how truthers, birthers, mooners, and on and on survive. For every bit of truth they ignore the 99% logical answer and grasp for that 1% "OMG QUESTIONS!" as if that proves anything and they demand MORE answers. And when reasonable people see them for what they are and give up dealing with kooks, then the kooks use that to try and justify it as some kind of "proof" they'r really right when in reality, they're just kooks.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Nothing at all about any attacks. I have no recorded contact with any government intelligence officials, records of being a college student in Newport News with little to no history of interest in politics.



    You could show me a birth certificate. Meh, its fake. I don't believe its real. Its a forgery. You bought it off some online store or some guy in a back alley. Its a fake one gotten illegally from someone misusing the system. Its an obvious forgery.

    I demand you present even more proof than just your birth certificate.

    See, I can be just like the birthers. Strangely, just like the truther's too.

    The belief that somehow throughout his near decade of time in the public service, and all through the campaign, the major political groups both backing him and opposed him could not properly vet him and check these things is ridiculous. Why should he keep bothering with this BS? Because a bunch of conpsiracy nuts demand for more "evidence" when there's been plenty more than they deserve already shown to them and all of it ignored or rebuffed in stereotypical conspiracy theorist fashion of "Um...no, that's not good enough. Um, it could be a fake, or...well...we want MORE! MORE proof!"
    Right, next time I'm pulled over and an officer demands my driver's license, I'll just get all incensed, accuse him of being a truther, and give him your arguments instead.
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I never said otherwise. I think that your Obama blinders won't allow you to see that.
    See what? The evidence has been clear and unquestionable. He provided all that is required for anyone running for office. There is no reason to even question his birth or qualifications.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Right, next time I'm pulled over and an officer demands my driver's license, I'll just get all incensed, accuse him of being a truther, and give him your arguments instead.
    No, that'd be if you showed him your liscense and he went "I don't know, I mean...you could've forged that. I demand to see evidence you even should legally have that". Then you produce your certification for your drivers ed course which causes him to go "Sure, but I mean...anyone could've taken that in your name, or you could've taken it and just never got a lisence! I demand you show me the DMV records proving it". So then you call the DMV and they confirm you definitely have your liscense, but he gets incensed because he can't physically see those records so thinks that the DMV is just obviously covering for you....

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    No, that'd be if you showed him your liscense and he went "I don't know, I mean...you could've forged that. I demand to see evidence you even should legally have that". Then you produce your certification for your drivers ed course which causes him to go "Sure, but I mean...anyone could've taken that in your name, or you could've taken it and just never got a lisence! I demand you show me the DMV records proving it". So then you call the DMV and they confirm you definitely have your liscense, but he gets incensed because he can't physically see those records so thinks that the DMV is just obviously covering for you....
    This is why Obama is handling birthers just right. No matter what is given, they are not going to believe it, and you should not give the idiots any attention. Obama has beedn determined to be eligable to be president by the people who matter. It's all over.
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    The belief that somehow throughout his near decade of time in the public service, and all through the campaign, the major political groups both backing him and opposed him could not properly vet him and check these things is ridiculous..
    You do know that Berry was promoted as the first African born person to run for Illinois State Senate???

    I guess you also missed Michel telling a crowd in Kenya that she was happy to be in Berry’s home country??

    There is no reason to even question his birth or qualifications.
    His birth place is irrelevant. A natural born citizen has to have a mother and a father that were loyal citizens of this country and Berry had an African father of record and a mother that hated this country until the day she died. Berry is not Natural Born no matter where it happened.

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