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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Logic does. More than enough evidence has been presented. It is unreasonable to need more.
    Then why is it the Governor of Hawaii can not find the proof?

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Then why is it the Governor of Hawaii can not find the proof?
    Maybe he's an idiot. But we have the proof already.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Birthers give way to much credit to Obama.

    Once again, I think his opponents often give him superhuman powers by their critisism.

    They're honestly suggesting, that Obama, at age 0, conspired with his parents to lie about their son being born in America (even though his father was kenyan born and still had the oppertunity to go to school in America) so that he could become president of the United States later in life, to start a socialist revolution and tax everyone to death and make them all ride segways?

    Jesus, you'd think if this guy could see that far into the future he woulda just picked the lottery numbers. Hey maybe that's how he paid for college?

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Maybe he's an idiot. But we have the proof already.
    But is it forged? If not the Governor could produce it

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Then why is it the Governor of Hawaii can not find the proof?
    Why can't you find the proof that he was born somewhere else?

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Alone? Well, it's a pretty good start to have logic and facts behind you. You can be just as manipulated, if not more so, on emotion alone. The evidence has been overwhelming. Not sure what feeling you hold that outweighs the logic and facts.


    The first sentence is correct. What I stated is that relying primarily on facts and evidence alone is unwise.

    The second statement is correct.

    The third statement is correct to those who choose to believe it.

    In response to the fourth statement, there are times in life when things do happen, but cannot be proved. As an example, let us say a murderer who is guilty, but cannot be proved so; that premise is reasonable to some of those who choose not to believe the third statement.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Why can't you find the proof that he was born somewhere else?
    Oh, well that's right here.


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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    But is it forged? If not the Governor could produce it
    There's no evidence of anything fordged. None. The fordged Kenyen documents were easy to prove false. You guys are just pulling at straws. Nothing more.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Draco View Post
    The first sentence is correct. What I stated is that relying primarily on facts and evidence alone is unwise.

    The second statement is correct.

    The third statement is correct to those who choose to believe it.

    In response to the fourth statement, there are times in life when things do happen, but cannot be proved. As an example, let us say a murderer who is guilty, but cannot be proved so; that premise is reasonable to some of those who choose not to believe the third statement.
    Even in your example, there would be cause to feel that way if he was actually the murderer, but you could be wrong. And secondly, we wouldn't prosecute, or at least shouldn't, without the evidence. Feeling would not be enough. Nor should it be.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    This is the problem I have with birthers.

    Short of producing his long form birth certificate, ALL OF THE EVIDENCE THAT HAS COME OUT SO FAR points to Obama having been born in Hawaii during the 1960s.
    Meanwhile, birthers have not provided one iota of evidence to suggest that he was born somewhere else. It has already been shown beyond any REASONABLE doubt that Obama was born when and where he said he was born. The burden of proof is on YOU to show us that he wasn't. Otherwise we can all resort to guessing and conjecture and conspiracy theorizing for the rest of our lives.

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