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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by spud_meister View Post
    Why? It shows he was born in Hawaii, unless it's a forgery too.
    Which, it could very well be. Hence the reason that it's not an official document.
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

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    What backgorund checks? I have to produce mor documentation to have a commercial driver's license than a politicians does to run for office.
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Obama has his right to privacy too. He doesn't have to disclose his birth certificate to the nation if he doesn't want to. However, what we can know is that unless the process was corrupt, whoever does the checks for presidential eligibility was obviously satisfied with what was produced. I dislike Obama as much as the next guy, but we have to face the fact that he is the legal standing president for 2 more years. The truthers hated Bush and tried to get him out by saying 9/11 was faked by Bush, when that didn't work they wanted him tried and impeached for war crimes for going into Iraq. They had to live with Bush, and we have to live with Obama until his term is up. There is no legitimate reason to impeach him.
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Which, it could very well be. Hence the reason that it's not an official document.
    The document we've seen is official. It's proof in a court of law of citizenship. Written right on it:
    "This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding."
    It has been authenticated by appropriate government officials.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    As soon as we capitulate to the idiotic requests and needless concerns of the Truthers, then we can do the same with their equally kooky tinfoil hat brothers the Birthers. Throw in the the "we never went to the moon" crowd in there as well.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by zimmer View Post
    Well the solution is pretty obvious, so obvious even Sher'f Dumb**** could figure it out.

    It is time for Obama to have the records released. Not too complicated now is it?

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    J'us du ette. Plug the damn hole, or is he going to hold off for some political ploy?

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    As soon as we capitulate to the idiotic requests and needless concerns of the Truthers, then we can do the same with their equally kooky tinfoil hat brothers the Birthers. Throw in the the "we never went to the moon" crowd in there as well.
    The sad part, is that all the, "proof", that is presented by the Obamabots doesn't do anything but fan the flames.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The sad part, is that all the, "proof", that is presented by the Obamabots doesn't do anything but fan the flames.
    Or maybe the anti-Obamabots are programmed to reject all proof and substitute hard data with irrational skepticism in order to keep the birther ideals alive
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    First lets start off with saying that I'm 99% sure he is a citizen.
    But I'm bewildered by his refusal to product his Birth Certificate, I think he enjoys the controversy, because it would be so easy to end. I'm fine with him not doing so, because I'm looking at 2012, in 2008 .. people would have elected anyone as long as it wasn't a republican. In 2012, and even now people are far more ho hum about him. Maybe he thinks that producing it then will give him a lift .. but I see it as just another thing taking him down. This is going to be brought up again, at least in blogs, in 2012, if he produces it … people are going to ask why it took him so long, if he doesn't .. well … it's going to cause a bit of a stir yet again.
    For the life of me I can see no benefit in not releasing it. Some on the left are probably correct .. the far right will call it fake, or doctored, but the majority would just shake their heads … and continue on with things of importance. But I can honestly say .. the longer he withholds it .. the more people wonder what it is that he could be hiding. The whole damn thing just seems senseless to me .

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Or maybe the anti-Obamabots are programmed to reject all proof and substitute hard data with irrational skepticism in order to keep the birther ideals alive
    Then along comes Abercrombie, who said, "I'm going to prove this once and for all", then he lied about actually, "being there", when Obama was born; then can't actually pay hands on his long form; then hides behind the law saying that it would be illegal to release it and, "there's nothing more he can do".

    That definitely pours gas on a fire that was damn near all the way extinguished.

    This isn't about birfers, or proving that Obama isn't a citizen. It's about Obamabots trying to end the debate and then ending up making things worse, all over again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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