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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    AWOL stands for absence without leave. It doesn't stand for the commander knows where I'm at.
    as I said, you got screwed or there is something you aren't telling.

    I have been a commander. all it takes is for PVT Joe Snuffy to call and say, "hey sir, my car broke down and I will be back in two days instead of tomorrow". You ammend the leave request form (DA form 31) to show the additional day and it is no big deal.

    you either had an ass for a commander or your story was bull****.
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    If the commander knows where you are and you're accounted for and he's not a chicken **** son-of-a-bitch, you're not AWOL.

    Leave can be given verbally.
    Only if he gives it. If I have it coming. He may know why I'm absent, but that is not the equal to being on leave.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    as I said, you got screwed or there is something you aren't telling.

    I have been a commander. all it takes is for PVT Joe Snuffy to call and say, "hey sir, my car broke down and I will be back in two days instead of tomorrow". You ammend the leave request form (DA form 31) to show the additional day and it is no big deal.

    you either had an ass for a commander or your story was bull****.
    Oh, it's a funny story, involving no money and a female, but the jest is just as I said. Stuck, no car, broke down, and not back on base in time. That is being AWOL.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    as I said, you got screwed or there is something you aren't telling.

    I have been a commander. all it takes is for PVT Joe Snuffy to call and say, "hey sir, my car broke down and I will be back in two days instead of tomorrow". You ammend the leave request form (DA form 31) to show the additional day and it is no big deal.

    you either had an ass for a commander or your story was bull****.
    Unless it's the 63rd time that PVT Snuffy's car broke down and he's going to be a couple days late getting back to the unit. Boo?
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Unless it's the 63rd time that PVT Snuffy's car broke down and he's going to be a couple days late getting back to the unit. Boo?
    like I said. either his commander was an ass or he was "that guy"
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Unless it's the 63rd time that PVT Snuffy's car broke down and he's going to be a couple days late getting back to the unit. Boo?
    Nope first and only time. Took three days. Got extra duty.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Oh, it's a funny story, involving no money and a female, but the jest is just as I said. Stuck, no car, broke down, and not back on base in time. That is being AWOL.
    and as I said, unless your commander was an ass, or this was the 10th time your car broke down, you should not have been counted AWOL. they should have ammended your leave/pass form to charge you the extra time. even if you didn't have the days, you can go "into the hole" and work them off later.

    that they charged you with AWOL shows that either they were jerks or you were a problem child that they were tired of dealing with.
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nope first and only time. Took three days. Got extra duty.
    were you officially charged? Article 15? or did they just give you extra duty to make up for the days you missed?
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    and as I said, unless your commander was an ass, or this was the 10th time your car broke down, you should not have been counted AWOL. they should have ammended your leave/pass form to charge you the extra time. even if you didn't have the days, you can go "into the hole" and work them off later.

    that they charged you with AWOL shows that either they were jerks or you were a problem child that they were tired of dealing with.
    Whether he's an ass or not is not the point. I was fine with everything that happened. Gave me a great story. But the definition of AWOL is the point. It doesn't matter if the commander knows where you are.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    were you officially charged? Article 15? or did they just give you extra duty to make up for the days you missed?
    No. I was told I was AWOL and it was my lucky day. I was just given extra duty.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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