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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    How so?

    The only "legitimacy" they can point to is Obama's refusal to allow documents to be released. Release them, and they have nothing but tin foil.
    There are actually multiple birther claims, all centering on whether Obama is a natural Born Citizen, but only one of those focuses on his birth certificate. The fact that his father was not a citizen is also part of the birther claims
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Would Obama releasing his Hawaiian BC via the official channels neuter the birthers?
    No.

    There's plenty of evidence, and common sense, that already shows that he's a citizen born in this country. And yet this issue is still here.

    By doing what you suggest, he'll silence a few people but by and large the birther's will do what every conspiracy movement does...deny, deny, deny.

    So no, I don't believe it'll neuter them. I think it'll actually encourage them to continue with this kind of thing.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Yeah right?
    Right. That is correct. The birther stuff is not related to any action whatsoever. Glad you agree.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    just as there is nothing on which to base the accusation that birthers are racist, other than some people's prejudice against right wingers.
    Gotta agree here. While there are definitely individual racists who likely cling onto this idea because of their racist views, its ridiculous to suggest the entire notion is based on racism or that all those that are speaking it are doing so for racist reasons.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    just as the Bush haters who were screaming about his NG records were not criticising policy. they criticised him breathing, being.

    no difference, they hated Bush for who he was, just as the birthers hate Obama for who he is.
    They were criticisng what he had done. An actual act. So, yes, there is a real difference.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Right. That is correct. The birther stuff is not related to any action whatsoever. Glad you agree.
    give it up already. so freaking what? the bulk of the attacks against Bush were not related to any action either. what is your vested interest? why is so important for you to paint the birthers as racists?
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    They were criticisng what he had done. An actual act. So, yes, there is a real difference.
    a difference that makes no difference, isn't really a difference. they were attacking his person for political purposes
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    give it up already. so freaking what? the bulk of the attacks against Bush were not related to any action either. what is your vested interest? why is so important for you to paint the birthers as racists?
    I'd say the birther movement has more to do with hyper partisan views than racism.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    a difference that makes no difference, isn't really a difference. they were attacking his person for political purposes
    Again, what action on Obama's part contributed to this? Bush did disappear from the NG. There were legitimate questions there. Political or not. Show me the legitimate question and act on Obama's part.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    I'd say the birther movement has more to do with hyper partisan views than racism.
    Could be both.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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