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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No. Bush actually did disappear. And there was legitmate reasons to question him.
    maybe in your mind, just as in the minds of the birthers there is legitimate reason to question Obama. the treatment was the same.


    And swiftboaters we dishonest and clearly operating on a political motive, using useful idiots to advance the cause.
    this case is almost identical to the birthers and Obama. a group of people continually asking for "proof" and not being satisfied with anything. sound familiar?


    This is completely different, doing something that has been done to no one else. Asking for something not asked of anyone else. And not just political, but personal.
    bull****. it was personal when they attacked Bush, it was personal when they attacked Kerry, it was personal when they attacked McCain.

    and sure, the specifics are different, no one has ever been harrassed over a birth certificate before but that is a minor detail. Political figures and POTUS before Obama have been harassed over stupid stuff and he won't be the last.

    he is nothing special and ...yes, virginia, they would still be doing it if he was white.
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No. Bush actually did disappear. And there was legitmate reasons to question him. And swiftboaters we dishonest and clearly operating on a political motive, using useful idiots to advance the cause. Same with McCain.


    And, as long as his unit commander could account for his whereabouts, he wasn't AWOL. You know it and I know it.


    This is completely different, doing something that has been done to no one else. Asking for something not asked of anyone else. And not just political, but personal.
    Were you this outraged when the Libbos kept hounding McCain for his medical records?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, as long as his unit commander could account for his whereabouts, he wasn't AWOL. You know it and I know it.




    Were you this outraged when the Libbos kept hounding McCain for his medical records?
    and boo has the nerve to accuse the birthers of being more irrational than the Bush haters.

    **** happened 8 years ago and he still can't let it go.
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    And this si why people like you, make me sick. Where were you when McCain got the full on media blast about his place of birth? People like you were sayign it was good to clear it up.
    Really? I'm not sure what "people like me" you're speaking of, but I can garauntee you I didn't support the idiocy going on with regards to McCain. You likely didn't see me talking as loudly about it either though because it happened massively for about a week, proof was shown, and most people shut the hell up and it went away. On the flip side, the Obama **** has gone on for verging on 3 years now, with every bit of evidence continually being ignored for partisan reasons. Its hard to get as annoyed at something that happened for a blip then vanished then something that's been going on for 3 years.

    Now someone makes a reasonable "This stupid birther thing would easily end if Obama released his records, not doing so is just dumb.
    Except that's not reasonable. It ignores reality since every single piece of evidence that is perfectly valid that gets presented gets poopooed as "not enough" so there's no reason to believe releasing MORE records is magically going to change things. The same thing truther's did with regards to 9/11 conspiracies. And you with your bull**** "99% sure" and you're just wanting him to release the information, is the same kind of BS that people who would go on and on about how they weren't truthers....they just think there's some questions and the government really should be more open about them,....were doing.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    hypocrisy...what a concept
    So tell me, birther who hates hypocrisy...what's your view of the truthers?

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So tell me, birther who hates hypocrisy...what's your view of the truthers?
    Too bad we don't see people remain consistant.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So tell me, birther who hates hypocrisy...what's your view of the truthers?
    can't do it...I'm not a birther. maybe you should actually read my freaking posts and find out my viewpoint before you make slanderous accusations?

    i think the whole birther thing is stupid, just like the Bush NG records thing was stupid, just like the Kerry swiftboat thing was stupid, just like the McCain medical record thing was stupid and yes, just like the 9/11 truthers are stupid.

    my whole point has been, the birthers are not after Obama because he is black, they are after him because they are right wing nutters and he is a lib dem.
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    funny how the arguement changes, now that the shoe is on the other foot isn't it?

    it was perfectly fine when the dems were bitching about Bush's national guard records
    it was stupid and pointless when the swiftboaters went after Kerry
    it was perfectly fine when the dems went after McCain
    it is again stupid and pointless when the birthers go after Obama.

    seems it is only stupid and pointless when the target is a democrat

    hypocrisy...what a concept
    What's more telling is the so called "conservatives" around here, who need to be liked latch onto issues like this to bash people on "their side" so they can look more moderate and reasonable to the "other side".
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Really? I'm not sure what "people like me" you're speaking of, but I can garauntee you I didn't support the idiocy going on with regards to McCain. You likely didn't see me talking as loudly about it either though because it happened massively for about a week, proof was shown, and most people shut the hell up and it went away. On the flip side, the Obama **** has gone on for verging on 3 years now, with every bit of evidence continually being ignored for partisan reasons. Its hard to get as annoyed at something that happened for a blip then vanished then something that's been going on for 3 years.



    Except that's not reasonable. It ignores reality since every single piece of evidence that is perfectly valid that gets presented gets poopooed as "not enough" so there's no reason to believe releasing MORE records is magically going to change things. The same thing truther's did with regards to 9/11 conspiracies. And you with your bull**** "99% sure" and you're just wanting him to release the information, is the same kind of BS that people who would go on and on about how they weren't truthers....they just think there's some questions and the government really should be more open about them,....were doing.
    You do realize you contradicted yourself here right?

    McCain's issue lingered for what a week? Proof was shown and the issue died. Yet on the flip side you say it's UNREASONABLE for Obama to bury this one by just signing the paper to release his Hawaiian documents.


    Admit it, you're scared to be tagged a "birther" so even reasonable discussion of the issue is intolerable to you. However, thank you for making my point.
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    Re: Hawaii law bars release of Obama birth info

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    What's more telling is the so called "conservatives" around here, who need to be liked latch onto issues like this to bash people on "their side" so they can look more moderate and reasonable to the "other side".
    As I've told you before Vicc.

    Want to go toe to toe with regards to our "conservative" credentials with regards to what we believe I'll be more than happy to.

    Being a dishonest political hack that puts party and political power above principles isn't a requirement in conservative principle.

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