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    Re: Obama to Push for New Spending as GOP Demands Deep Budget Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron River View Post
    Let me think – electrical generation? – no; Electric light? – no; Teflon? No; Nylon? - no; Kevlar? – no; TV? - no; Radio? – no;

    Waste and fraud? YES!! YES!!! The government spends billions on researching frogs, bugs of all kinds, HIV in drunken prostitutes in Brazil, etc. The only things that I can think of that turned into useful products are things developed for war and they were done by private companies using government money.

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    Are you unaware that the American people were told by our illegitimate president that the stimulus bill was targeted at immediate repair and renewal of our bridges and roads? You must know that Berry sold his giant spending plan based on shovel ready infrastructure jobs that would put people to work immediately? But instead of spending on the bridges that he so worried about now he gave the money to State and local union workers.

    He saved a lot of union jobs for the short term but because he lied and diverted the money the State and local government didn’t get the added income that the infrastructure jobs would have brought them. Now the money in the pockets of unions who refuse to work when they hear about staffing cuts and people die in the snow.

    BHO is the worst president of all times and that is saying a lot after the years of suffering under FDR and Carter.
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    Re: Obama to Push for New Spending as GOP Demands Deep Budget Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Centrist View Post
    True, that's why it would take a redistribution of spending. Slash government programs in half like the unsuccessful war on drugs and the inadequate and grossly expensive Department of Homeland Security. Slash 2/3 of welfare programs. Slash military spending in half by taking all of the bases out of places like Bulgaria, Spain, Japan, Italy, Portugal, the Netherlands, the UK. We have the money, we're just spending it in stupid places.
    Much less need for bases in Europe today, so the number should be CURTAILED (not eliminated) but the bases in Japan and Korea are still definately needed. But yes, I would support looking at the overseas bases and cutting back on them in areas where they are not needed.
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    Re: Obama to Push for New Spending as GOP Demands Deep Budget Cuts

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    How is losing billions of dollars in the best interest of the nation? Do you understand how bankruptcy works?
    It is in the best interest of the nation to save our valuable manufacturing base and millions of jobs that goes with it.
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    Re: Obama to Push for New Spending as GOP Demands Deep Budget Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It is in the best interest of the nation to save our valuable manufacturing base and millions of jobs that goes with it.
    So bankruptcy would have put GM and Chrysler out of business? You really don't know how bankruptcy works. How many U.S. Businesses filed bankruptcy and returned to better health. You can start with United Airlines for one, Delta is another. Want me to continue? On second thought it doesn't matter to a liberal. You bought the Obama lies.

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    Re: Obama to Push for New Spending as GOP Demands Deep Budget Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It is in the best interest of the nation to save our valuable manufacturing base and millions of jobs that goes with it.
    Obama was concerned about his money tree the unions

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    Re: Obama to Push for New Spending as GOP Demands Deep Budget Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    I guess he hasn't gotten the memo people are sick of the spending.
    Sorry, but the deficit is only #3 on people's minds (14% say it is the #1 priority), behind job creation (43% say that is the #1 priority). Source: (Priorities)

    Given that cutting spending is only a single tactic in fixing the deficit (tax increases and improving the economy are other approaches). I would say cutting spending is actually a pretty low priority. Moreover, the most effective thing the government can do to create jobs is to spend money.

    The only really remarkable thing the government can do to fix the deficit is to improve the economy. As current tax revenues are off about 20% ($300-500B) and a large part of discretionary spending, right now, goes to costs associated with a soft economy (unemployment and stimulus spending), fixing the economy, through whatever means, including more stimulus, makes much more sense then to worry about spending.

    After but a couple weeks on the job, the Republicans are already out of touch with their electorate. Note recent polls still show the democrates more trusted on issues of the economy, including job creation, taxes, healthcare and overall management of the economy. On the issue of spending, Republicans and Dems are held in even esteem.
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    Re: Obama to Push for New Spending as GOP Demands Deep Budget Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    So bankruptcy would have put GM and Chrysler out of business? You really don't know how bankruptcy works. How many U.S. Businesses filed bankruptcy and returned to better health. You can start with United Airlines for one, Delta is another. Want me to continue? On second thought it doesn't matter to a liberal. You bought the Obama lies.
    They each went through bankruptcy, GM quite successfully. What is your point?

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    Re: Obama to Push for New Spending as GOP Demands Deep Budget Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Sorry, but the deficit is #3 on people's minds, behind job creation. (Priorities) The most effective thing the government can do to create jobs is to spend money.

    The only really remarkable thing the government can do to fix the deficit is to improve the economy. As current tax revenues are off about 20% ($300-500B) and a large part of discretionary spending, right now, goes to costs associated with a soft economy (unemployment and stimulus spending), fixing the economy, through whatever means, including more stimulus, makes much more sense then to worry about spending.

    After but a couple weeks on the job, the Republicans are already out of touch with their electorate. Note recent polls still show the democrates more trusted on issues of the economy, including job creation, taxes, healthcare and overall management of the economy. On the issue of spending, Republicans and Dems are held in even esteem.
    given almost half the country don't pay income taxes-its not surprising the dems have a majority of people who like the dem schemes of making the top 5% bear all the tax increases



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    Re: Obama to Push for New Spending as GOP Demands Deep Budget Cuts

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    any talks of cutting anything, will have to be with the understanding that EVERYTHING will have to face the sharp edge of the axe...not just the so called 'entitlement' programs...i've explained this before, nothing can be a 'sacred cow'...
    I agree. ....and if you are really serious about reducing the deficit, tax increases also have to be considered. At the end of the day, however, no one wants to do what it takes to fix the deficit, because they want OTHERS to endure the pain.....

    Anyone that has seriously studied this problem has come to this conclusion. Our politicians lack the guts and political will do really do what needs to be done (a multi-facet approach, which will include tax increases). Until then, there will be no serious movement toward lower deficits (except by natural course of an improved economy), just a lot of hot rhetoric.
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    Re: Obama to Push for New Spending as GOP Demands Deep Budget Cuts

    upsideguy;1059237607]Sorry, but the deficit is #3 on people's minds, behind job creation. (Priorities) The most effective thing the government can do to create jobs is to spend money.
    You don't understand our economy, do you? It isn't the government's role to create jobs, but it is the government's role to create an atmosphere for the private sector to create jobs.

    The only really remarkable thing the government can do to fix the deficit is to improve the economy. As current tax revenues are off about 20% ($300-500B) and a large part of discretionary spending, right now, goes to costs associated with a soft economy (unemployment and stimulus spending), fixing the economy, through whatever means, including more stimulus, makes much more sense then to worry about spending.
    Spending money creates debt and that offsets any benefit the govt. generates to grow the economy. The current tax revenue is down because there are 16+ million unemployed people and that is after Obama spent a trillion dollars to stimulate the economy

    After but a couple weeks on the job, the Republicans are already out of touch with their electorate. Note recent polls still show the democrates more trusted on issues of the economy, including job creation, taxes, healthcare and overall management of the economy. On the issue of spending, Republicans and Dems are held in even esteem.

    LOL, results matter and the Obama results speak for themselves. Haven't seen the polls that show Republicans out of touch with the electorate. Democrats had control of the economy since January 2007 were shellacked in Nov. 2010.

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