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    Re: Outspoken Tucson sheriff faces recall bid

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Oh sure...NOW the left wants to wait before casting aspersions....

    Isnt that what this whole debate is ABOUT??? If that hadnt already happened we wouldnt be having this and so many other discussions.

    I think a defense attorney can play eeny meeny on this...pick from either the "evil republican rhetoric made me do it" or the "its not his fault because he is insane" defense. Both have been thrown about since day one.
    I never made any claims, just defending the sheriffs right to the same free speech that your favorite pundits get paid millions for.......
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    Re: Outspoken Tucson sheriff faces recall bid

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    help me out here, are liberals the partisan fools, and conservatives the mindless sheep, or vice versa?
    You two keep talking about it. Together. You will figure it out.

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    Re: Outspoken Tucson sheriff faces recall bid

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post


    You really gotta stop...you are too much...

    YOU and yur'n have been making the same BASELESS claim since day one...and now you think you have somehow scored points because I have stated we have no evidence of said influence? You (and your good buddy Bill)...apparently YOU TWO have this mythical evidence that he WAS influenced by Palin, Beck at al??? Of COURSE not.

    Geez-us...one can literally HEAR the circus music when you read your words...
    Perhaps you could quote me on those things I was supposed to have said.

    And I am still waiting for YOU to reproduce the exact words of Sheriff Dupnik that merits his recall from office after decades of meritorious service to the people of that county.
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    Re: Outspoken Tucson sheriff faces recall bid

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    I never made any claims, just defending the sheriffs right to the same free speech that your favorite pundits get paid millions for.......
    My favorite pundits? Bill...if you knew how stupid what you just wrote was you would be embarassed. The ONLY pundits I listen to are sports radio. I jump right out there and STATE Fox News is biased. The difference between ANY pundits and the sheriff is two-fold. He is an elected official...a representative of law enforcement, and he used a tragic shooting to launch baseless political attacks.

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    Re: Outspoken Tucson sheriff faces recall bid

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Perhaps you could quote me on those things I was supposed to have said.

    And I am still waiting for YOU to reproduce the exact words of Sheriff Dupnik that merits his recall from office after decades of meritorious service to the people of that county.
    Ive answered your question. I wont go so far as to say you are a smart man, but I DO know you know how to use google. So if you really care, type in the good sheriffs name and search videos. Pretty much all of them.

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    Re: Outspoken Tucson sheriff faces recall bid

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Ive answered your question. I wont go so far as to say you are a smart man, but I DO know you know how to use google. So if you really care, type in the good sheriffs name and search videos. Pretty much all of them.
    YOU are the one claiming that he said things that should get him recalled. Not me.
    YOU are the one who needs to present his statements that so offended YOU that YOU now advocate recalling him from office. Not I.
    This is YOUR cause celebre. Not mine.
    This is YOUR issue. Not mine.
    This is YOUR obsession. Not mine.
    It is up to YOU to show what he said that so upsets you and merits countermanding three decades of meritorious public service to his county and the people of it. Not me.
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    Re: Outspoken Tucson sheriff faces recall bid

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    My favorite pundits? Bill...if you knew how stupid what you just wrote was you would be embarassed. The ONLY pundits I listen to are sports radio. I jump right out there and STATE Fox News is biased. The difference between ANY pundits and the sheriff is two-fold. He is an elected official...a representative of law enforcement, and he used a tragic shooting to launch baseless political attacks.
    not stupid, ignorant perhaps....ignorance being the lack of knowledge concerning who you listen to. The way you defend them, I assumed you listen to them, sorry...
    How is what the sheriff did a political attack? Is he up for election? I think he said what is on a lot of people's minds, that the heated rhetoric is too much. If pundits want to smear politicians with the truth, I am all for it. But when you start expanding past truth, the only reputation smeared is their own. That is why I despise pundits, that can't help themselves, they can't stick with just the facts, ma'am.....
    and then there are the many, many listeners who so willingly suspend disbelief because it is what they WANT to hear....
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    Re: Outspoken Tucson sheriff faces recall bid

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    RPT-Arizona suspect had made death threats-sheriff | Reuters

    Sheriff Clarence Dupnik of Pima County, where the shooting happened, told reporters the suspect had a troubled past. "All I can tell you is that this person may have a mental issue," Dupnik said.
    Dupnik said there had been earlier contact between Loughner and law enforcement after he had made death threats, although they had not been against Giffords. He said the authorities believe he may not have been working alone.
    If he knew all this, why did he put the blame on the media??

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    Re: Outspoken Tucson sheriff faces recall bid

    In the end the only opinion that will matter are the people of Pima county. If enough find they are tired of the sheriff, the recall will go through. If not its just all talk. Living in Az, but not Pima county, I did find his commont that AZ has become a "a mecca for prejudice and bigotry.". He has a right to say it on his own time. I think it is out of line to say in as an elected official without proof.
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    Re: Outspoken Tucson sheriff faces recall bid

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    from vance

    You miss the point (no...you mindlessly ignore the point). He WAS NOT influenced by ANYONE...left or right. THIS PERSON...THIS CASE...there is ZERO indication that he was motivated by right wing vitriol. NONE.
    And you know this with such positive sureness because ..... because of what exactly?
    There is no proof these pedestrians aren't dead because they were listening to the First Lady. Pretty silly huh? We are no more likely to find out why they were walking than we are to find out why a schitzophrenic decided to kill people. But I guess we could go on saying there is no proof they weren't listening to Michelle Obama and that's why they were hit by cars.



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