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Tennessee Democrat stands by Nazi remarks

Hatuey said:
Haha this is such a fail of a thread it's almost funny. The article goes on to say that he apologized for his comments:



When Sarah Palin goes on record to apologize for having compared her 'persecution' to that of Jews burned at the stake during the Catholic inquisition, maybe ludahai will buy himself a shovel and dig himself the dignity necessary to come up with an honest thread.
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He did NOT apologize for saying it. He even went on CNN DEFENDING his characterization of Republican propoganda as being from Goebbles...

When did Palin compare the way the media treated her to how Jews were treated during the Inquisition? You really do have such a little understanding of history and the development of the English language. You probably think the Easter holiday has pagan origins too, huh?
 
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ludahai said:
He did NOT apologize for saying it. He even went on CNN DEFENDING his characterization of Republican propoganda as being from Goebbles...
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Your article says different:

"I regret that anyone in the Jewish community, my Republican colleagues or anyone else was offended by the portrayal of my comments," he said. "My comments were not directed toward any group or people but at the false message and, specifically, the method by which it has been delivered."
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When did Palin compare the way the media treated her to how Jews were treated during the Inquisition? You really do have such a little understanding of history and the development of the English language. You probably think the Easter holiday has pagan origins too, huh?
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2 words: Blood libel.
 
Hatuey said:
Your article says different:
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Yea, he seems real repentant.

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Hatuey said:
Forgive me if I don't take a link from NewsBusters seriously?
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The Plum Line - Dem Rep: No apology for saying GOP mendacity is worthy of Goebbels

Dem Rep: No apology for saying GOP mendacity is worthy of Goebbels
By Greg Sargent

Uh oh. Dem Rep. Steve Cohen has no intention to apologize for insisting in a controversial broadside on the House floor that GOP lies on health reform are worthy of Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels. In a lively interview with me just now, he doubled down on the claim -- hard.

"I don't think calling out liars is uncivil," Cohen told me. "No reason to apologize. You have a duty to respond. if they were telling the truth and I said they were lying, then I would apologize," Cohen continued, referring to Republicans.
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Better?
 
RightinNYC said:
The Plum Line - Dem Rep: No apology for saying GOP mendacity is worthy of Goebbels

Better?
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The Plum Line - Dem Rep: No apology for saying GOP mendacity is worthy of Goebbels

Posted at 5:13 PM ET, 01/19/2011
Dem Rep: No apology for saying GOP mendacity is worthy of Goebbels
By Greg Sargent

Uh oh. Dem Rep. Steve Cohen has no intention to apologize for insisting in a controversial broadside on the House floor that GOP lies on health reform are worthy of Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels. In a lively interview with me just now, he doubled
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Rep. Steve Cohen apologizes for Nazi comments - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

By JENNIFER EPSTEIN | 1/20/11 2:00 PM EST

Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) is insisting that he didn’t mean to call his Republican colleagues Nazis for their opposition to the health care reform law, but nonetheless is apologizing to anyone offended by what he said on the House floor earlier this week.

Read more: Rep. Steve Cohen apologizes for Nazi comments - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com
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RightinNYC said:
Yes, I'm well aware that after making the idiotic claim on one day, being criticized widely, refusing to back down the next day, and being criticized again, he's now offered a non-apology that pretends like he didn't actually say what he really said.
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.... opinion is a wonderful thing I guess.
 
Does this mean that Joe Wilson isn't such a bad guy, afterall?
 
Hatuey said:
Your article says different:





2 words: Blood libel.
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1. You don't even know the origin of the term 'blood libel'
2. You don't understand that in the 20th century, it came to be used for far more than the original meaning of the term...

are you going to hit and run with this again???
 
ludahai said:
1. You don't even know the origin of the term 'blood libel'
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Blood Libel

Blood Libel - The blood libel is a false accusation that Jews sacrifice Christian children either to use the blood for various "medicinal" purposes or to prepare Passover Matzoth (unleavened bread) or for vengeance and mock crucifixions. It is one of the central fables of Anti-Semitism of the older (middle ages) type. The blood libel is a phenomenon of medieval and modern Christian anti-Semitism, but spread to the Middle East as early as 1775, when there was a blood libel in Hebron. A second blood libel occurred in Damascus in 1840 and one occurred in Cyprus in the same year. As the blood libel was the subject of folk ballads and literature, it was not simply a religious superstition in Europe, but a staple of popular culture, like most anti-Semitic prejudices.
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Blood Libel, Host Desecration and other Myths

n 1144 CE, an unfounded rumor began in eastern England, that Jews had kidnapped a Christian child, tied him to a cross, stabbed his head to simulate Jesus' crown of thorns, killed him, drained his body completely of blood, and mixed the blood into matzos (unleavened bread) at time of Passover. The rumor was started by a former Jew, Theobald, who had become a Christian monk. He said that Jewish representatives gathered each year in Narbonne, France. They decided in which city a Christian child would be sacrificed.

The boy involved in the year 1144 hoax became known as St. William of Norwich. Many people made pilgrimages to his tomb and claimed that miracles had resulted from appeals to St. William. The myth shows a complete lack of understanding of mainline Judaism. Aside from the prohibition of killing innocent persons, the Torah specifically forbids the drinking or eating of any form of blood in any quantity. However, reality never has had much of an impact on blood libel myths. This rumor lasted for many centuries; even today it has not completely disappeared. 1
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2. You don't understand that in the 20th century, it came to be used for far more than the original meaning of the term...
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Sure. Find us examples of it being used outside of an anti-semitism context.

are you going to hit and run with this again???
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Your blatant catholic revisionism fool nobody.
 
Hatuey said:
Blood Libel



Blood Libel, Host Desecration and other Myths
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What does this have to do with the Inquisition? You DO realize, I hope, that popes in the Middle Ages DECRIED and said that the blood libel rumors were FALSE. Of course, I wouldn't expect an anti-Catholic like you to actually be interested in the truth.


Sure. Find us examples of it being used outside of an anti-semitism context.
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Already done in a thread you cut and ran from.

Accusations of ritual murder are being advanced by different groups to this day. One stated that physicians in the People's Republic of China who perform abortions consider the fetus a delicacy and eat it. The story, reported from Hong Kong by Bruce Gilley, was investigated by Senator Jesse Helms, and gruesome artwork reminiscent of traditional depictions of blood libel was featured in several anti-abortion campaigns. Eventually the story was proven to be false.[12]

Another contemporary blood libel in the United States alleged, falsely, that both neopagans and Satanists used human blood, sexual abuse, or ritual murder, especially of children, in their rituals. Often Satanism, all of the diverse neopagan religions, the role playing game Dungeons & Dragons, and sometimes Roman Catholicism and liberal or non-fundamentalist Christian denominations, are portrayed as expressions of one monolithic and ancient global conspiracy of Satan-worshipers.[13]
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Your blatant catholic revisionism fool nobody.
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Truth is revisionism? You MUST be a liberal.... and a ... . oh, there is that word again that I would get an infraction point for.... hint, it begins with a 'b'
 
ludahai said:
What does this have to do with the Inquisition?
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What kind of non-sequitur is this? Read my comment about the inquisition again?

You DO realize, I hope, that popes in the Middle Ages DECRIED and said that the blood libel rumors were FALSE. Of course, I wouldn't expect an anti-Catholic like you to actually be interested in the truth.
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This is exatcly where I wanted to catch you. Revising history to fit your point again. Regardless of whether or not the pope said blood libel was false, Catholic priests continued to make cases of blood libel during the Inquisition.

The Inquisition

While many people associate the Inquisition with Spain and Portugal, it was actually instituted by Pope Innocent III (1198-1216) in Rome. A later pope, Pope Gregory IX established the Inquisition, in 1233, to combat the heresy of the Abilgenses, a religious sect in France. By 1255, the Inquisition was in full gear throughout Central and Western Europe; although it was never instituted in England or Scandinavia.
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In 1481 the Inquisition started in Spain and ultimately surpassed the medieval Inquisition, in both scope and intensity. Conversos (Secret Jews) and New Christians were targeted because of their close relations to the Jewish community, many of whom were Jews in all but their name. Fear of Jewish influence led Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand to write a petition to the Pope asking permission to start an Inquisition in Spain. In 1483 Tomas de Torquemada became the inquisitor-general for most of Spain, he set tribunals in many cities. Also heading the Inquisition in Spain were two Dominican monks, Miguel de Morillo and Juan de San Martin.
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Blood Libel, Host Desecration and other Myths

1451: Pope Nicholas V appointed John of Capistrano to organize the Inquisition of the Jews. John repeated the old charges of ritual murder and host desecration.
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You're welcome to turn the **** around and leave your own thread now.

Already done in a thread you cut and ran from.
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ROFL - Sure. Which one?

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I already destroyed this link when you posted it the first time. EVERY example given is related to Judaism.

Truth is revisionism? You MUST be a liberal.... and a ... . oh, there is that word again that I would get an infraction point for.... hint, it begins with a 'b'
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As I said before. You don't have the minerals necessary to actually do more than complain about being called out for being a defender of Catholic revisionism.
 
I think I understand his apology. Lets see...

Statement: The actions of liberals is worthy of every pathetic scumbag that has ever stained the planet.

"Dear lord...I apolergize for anyone that might have been offended that I called liberals pathetic scumbags. I know I used the words and directed them at liberals, but I didnt mean for anyone to actually feel like they were directly applied to them."
 
Hatuey said:
What kind of non-sequitur is this? Read my comment about the inquisition again?
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When Sarah Palin goes on record to apologize for having compared her 'persecution' to that of Jews burned at the stake during the Catholic inquisition, maybe ludahai will buy himself a shovel and dig himself the dignity necessary to come up with an honest thread.
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That was your origial quote on the subject. 'Blood libel' had nothing to do with the Inquisition.


This is exatcly where I wanted to catch you. Revising history to fit your point again. Regardless of whether or not the pope said blood libel was false, Catholic priests continued to make cases of blood libel during the Inquisition.
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I swear, dealing with people like yourself who have no sense of authority and history...

Priests do NOT make Catholic Church policy; the Pope and Cardinals do.


You're welcome to turn the **** around and leave your own thread now.
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Why would I do that when you are doing such a good job of making an utter fool of yourself.


I already destroyed this link when you posted it the first time. EVERY example given is related to Judaism.
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You mean THESE two (which I quoted earlier in this thread, and you once again ignored)

linked source posted earlier said:
Accusations of ritual murder are being advanced by different groups to this day. One stated that physicians in the People's Republic of China who perform abortions consider the fetus a delicacy and eat it. The story, reported from Hong Kong by Bruce Gilley, was investigated by Senator Jesse Helms, and gruesome artwork reminiscent of traditional depictions of blood libel was featured in several anti-abortion campaigns. Eventually the story was proven to be false.[12]

Another contemporary blood libel in the United States alleged, falsely, that both neopagans and Satanists used human blood, sexual abuse, or ritual murder, especially of children, in their rituals. Often Satanism, all of the diverse neopagan religions, the role playing game Dungeons & Dragons, and sometimes Roman Catholicism and liberal or non-fundamentalist Christian denominations, are portrayed as expressions of one monolithic and ancient global conspiracy of Satan-worshipers.[13]
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Didn't know the Chinese were Jews... nor did I know neopagans and Satanists were... gee... gotta check up on my liberal classification of religions...

As I said before. You don't have the minerals necessary to actually do more than complain about being called out for being a defender of Catholic revisionism.
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I am defending the TRUTH, something your ilk have a hard time understanding.
 
Hatuey said:
Forgive me if I don't take a link from NewsBusters seriously?
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You don't take verbatim quotes passed over by The JournOlists, because you don't like the source?

N A R R O W. Very N A R R O W.

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