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    Re: Tennessee Democrat stands by Nazi remarks

    The Plum Line - Dem Rep: No apology for saying GOP mendacity is worthy of Goebbels

    Posted at 5:13 PM ET, 01/19/2011
    Dem Rep: No apology for saying GOP mendacity is worthy of Goebbels
    By Greg Sargent

    Uh oh. Dem Rep. Steve Cohen has no intention to apologize for insisting in a controversial broadside on the House floor that GOP lies on health reform are worthy of Nazi propagandist Joseph Goebbels. In a lively interview with me just now, he doubled
    Rep. Steve Cohen apologizes for Nazi comments - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com

    By JENNIFER EPSTEIN | 1/20/11 2:00 PM EST

    Rep. Steve Cohen (D-Tenn.) is insisting that he didn’t mean to call his Republican colleagues Nazis for their opposition to the health care reform law, but nonetheless is apologizing to anyone offended by what he said on the House floor earlier this week.

    Read more: Rep. Steve Cohen apologizes for Nazi comments - Jennifer Epstein - POLITICO.com
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    Re: Tennessee Democrat stands by Nazi remarks

    Yes, I'm well aware that after making the idiotic claim on one day, being criticized widely, refusing to back down the next day, and being criticized again, he's now offered a non-apology that pretends like he didn't actually say what he really said.
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    Re: Tennessee Democrat stands by Nazi remarks

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Yes, I'm well aware that after making the idiotic claim on one day, being criticized widely, refusing to back down the next day, and being criticized again, he's now offered a non-apology that pretends like he didn't actually say what he really said.
    .... opinion is a wonderful thing I guess.
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    Re: Tennessee Democrat stands by Nazi remarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    .... opinion is a wonderful thing I guess.
    Unless you really don't like it, in which case it's a harm to the country.
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    Re: Tennessee Democrat stands by Nazi remarks

    Does this mean that Joe Wilson isn't such a bad guy, afterall?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Tennessee Democrat stands by Nazi remarks

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Your article says different:





    2 words: Blood libel.
    1. You don't even know the origin of the term 'blood libel'
    2. You don't understand that in the 20th century, it came to be used for far more than the original meaning of the term...

    are you going to hit and run with this again???
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    Re: Tennessee Democrat stands by Nazi remarks

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    1. You don't even know the origin of the term 'blood libel'
    Blood Libel

    Blood Libel - The blood libel is a false accusation that Jews sacrifice Christian children either to use the blood for various "medicinal" purposes or to prepare Passover Matzoth (unleavened bread) or for vengeance and mock crucifixions. It is one of the central fables of Anti-Semitism of the older (middle ages) type. The blood libel is a phenomenon of medieval and modern Christian anti-Semitism, but spread to the Middle East as early as 1775, when there was a blood libel in Hebron. A second blood libel occurred in Damascus in 1840 and one occurred in Cyprus in the same year. As the blood libel was the subject of folk ballads and literature, it was not simply a religious superstition in Europe, but a staple of popular culture, like most anti-Semitic prejudices.
    Blood Libel, Host Desecration and other Myths

    n 1144 CE, an unfounded rumor began in eastern England, that Jews had kidnapped a Christian child, tied him to a cross, stabbed his head to simulate Jesus' crown of thorns, killed him, drained his body completely of blood, and mixed the blood into matzos (unleavened bread) at time of Passover. The rumor was started by a former Jew, Theobald, who had become a Christian monk. He said that Jewish representatives gathered each year in Narbonne, France. They decided in which city a Christian child would be sacrificed.

    The boy involved in the year 1144 hoax became known as St. William of Norwich. Many people made pilgrimages to his tomb and claimed that miracles had resulted from appeals to St. William. The myth shows a complete lack of understanding of mainline Judaism. Aside from the prohibition of killing innocent persons, the Torah specifically forbids the drinking or eating of any form of blood in any quantity. However, reality never has had much of an impact on blood libel myths. This rumor lasted for many centuries; even today it has not completely disappeared. 1
    2. You don't understand that in the 20th century, it came to be used for far more than the original meaning of the term...
    Sure. Find us examples of it being used outside of an anti-semitism context.

    are you going to hit and run with this again???
    Your blatant catholic revisionism fool nobody.
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    What does this have to do with the Inquisition? You DO realize, I hope, that popes in the Middle Ages DECRIED and said that the blood libel rumors were FALSE. Of course, I wouldn't expect an anti-Catholic like you to actually be interested in the truth.


    Sure. Find us examples of it being used outside of an anti-semitism context.
    Already done in a thread you cut and ran from.

    Accusations of ritual murder are being advanced by different groups to this day. One stated that physicians in the People's Republic of China who perform abortions consider the fetus a delicacy and eat it. The story, reported from Hong Kong by Bruce Gilley, was investigated by Senator Jesse Helms, and gruesome artwork reminiscent of traditional depictions of blood libel was featured in several anti-abortion campaigns. Eventually the story was proven to be false.[12]

    Another contemporary blood libel in the United States alleged, falsely, that both neopagans and Satanists used human blood, sexual abuse, or ritual murder, especially of children, in their rituals. Often Satanism, all of the diverse neopagan religions, the role playing game Dungeons & Dragons, and sometimes Roman Catholicism and liberal or non-fundamentalist Christian denominations, are portrayed as expressions of one monolithic and ancient global conspiracy of Satan-worshipers.[13]
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    Your blatant catholic revisionism fool nobody.
    Truth is revisionism? You MUST be a liberal.... and a ... . oh, there is that word again that I would get an infraction point for.... hint, it begins with a 'b'
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    Re: Tennessee Democrat stands by Nazi remarks

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    What does this have to do with the Inquisition?
    What kind of non-sequitur is this? Read my comment about the inquisition again?

    You DO realize, I hope, that popes in the Middle Ages DECRIED and said that the blood libel rumors were FALSE. Of course, I wouldn't expect an anti-Catholic like you to actually be interested in the truth.
    This is exatcly where I wanted to catch you. Revising history to fit your point again. Regardless of whether or not the pope said blood libel was false, Catholic priests continued to make cases of blood libel during the Inquisition.

    The Inquisition

    While many people associate the Inquisition with Spain and Portugal, it was actually instituted by Pope Innocent III (1198-1216) in Rome. A later pope, Pope Gregory IX established the Inquisition, in 1233, to combat the heresy of the Abilgenses, a religious sect in France. By 1255, the Inquisition was in full gear throughout Central and Western Europe; although it was never instituted in England or Scandinavia.
    In 1481 the Inquisition started in Spain and ultimately surpassed the medieval Inquisition, in both scope and intensity. Conversos (Secret Jews) and New Christians were targeted because of their close relations to the Jewish community, many of whom were Jews in all but their name. Fear of Jewish influence led Queen Isabella and King Ferdinand to write a petition to the Pope asking permission to start an Inquisition in Spain. In 1483 Tomas de Torquemada became the inquisitor-general for most of Spain, he set tribunals in many cities. Also heading the Inquisition in Spain were two Dominican monks, Miguel de Morillo and Juan de San Martin.
    Blood Libel, Host Desecration and other Myths

    1451: Pope Nicholas V appointed John of Capistrano to organize the Inquisition of the Jews. John repeated the old charges of ritual murder and host desecration.
    You're welcome to turn the **** around and leave your own thread now.

    Already done in a thread you cut and ran from.
    ROFL - Sure. Which one?

    I already destroyed this link when you posted it the first time. EVERY example given is related to Judaism.

    Truth is revisionism? You MUST be a liberal.... and a ... . oh, there is that word again that I would get an infraction point for.... hint, it begins with a 'b'
    As I said before. You don't have the minerals necessary to actually do more than complain about being called out for being a defender of Catholic revisionism.
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    Re: Tennessee Democrat stands by Nazi remarks

    I think I understand his apology. Lets see...

    Statement: The actions of liberals is worthy of every pathetic scumbag that has ever stained the planet.

    "Dear lord...I apolergize for anyone that might have been offended that I called liberals pathetic scumbags. I know I used the words and directed them at liberals, but I didnt mean for anyone to actually feel like they were directly applied to them."

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