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More than a million immigrants land U.S. jobs

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DALLAS — Over the past two years, as U.S. unemployment remained near double-digit levels and the economy shed jobs in the wake of the financial crisis, over a million foreign-born arrivals to America found work, many illegally.
Those are among the findings of a review of U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and Census Bureau data conducted exclusively for Reuters by researchers at the Center for Labor Market Studies at Northeastern University in Boston.

More than a million immigrants land U.S. jobs - Business - U.S. business - msnbc.com

This of course makes me ticked! In fact in order to get a job around me that deals with the general public or a place where Latinos work you MUST be bilingual.
 
Perhaps you should learn Spanish, mate.
OMG no! That would take work!

I've picked up a good deal of Spanish working alongside people who were primarily Spanish speakers.
 
More than a million immigrants land U.S. jobs - Business - U.S. business - msnbc.com

This of course makes me ticked! In fact in order to get a job around me that deals with the general public or a place where Latinos work you MUST be bilingual.

Why does this make you angry? The article lists several reasons why employers hire immigrants rather than natives.

The Article said:
Often young and unskilled or semi-skilled, immigrants have taken jobs Americans could do in areas like construction, willing to work for less wages. Others land jobs that unemployed Americans turn up their noses at or lack the skills to do.

The Article said:
Many of the new arrivals, according to employers, brought with them skills required of the building trade and found work in sectors such as construction, where jobless rates are high.

The Article said:
Farm workers in particular argue that Americans would not do the tough field work that is rife with undocumented workers, titling one recent union campaign "Take Our Jobs". The slogan meant that if Americans wanted their jobs, then take them. But it is likely they don't.

The Article said:
"People often think construction is unskilled but the trades are very skilled and we need cement masons, carpenters, equipment operators," he told Reuters in a phone interview.

"We are looking for qualified candidates and it just so happens that some of the candidates who we select are legal immigrants. It means they have the skills we are looking for," he said.

So the reason why businesses are hiring immigrants is because they already have the skills needed by businesses. That reduces the costs to the businesses for training.

Also, businesses want to hire people who will stay with them. In this economy, there are many overqualifed people applying to these low-wage blue collar jobs that they aren't even trained in.

So why should a business spent the time and money to train a bunch of MBAs in how to be hotel cleaning attendants and tractor drivers when as soon as the economy takes off again they will leave those blue-collar jobs for higher earning white-collar jobs that they went to college to get educated in and need to earn a salary high enough to pay off the student loans to get that education?

That's why the highly educated unemployed in the U.S. is having a difficult time finding low-wage jobs in this economy - it's because businesses know that they likely won't stay with the company once the economy improves and their higher quality skills are demanded by other businesses.

So the issue isn't really trying to stop immigrants from taking unpopular low-wage blue collar jobs. The issue really is, "How can we get native U.S. citizens to work in unpopular low-wage blue collar jobs?"
 
God bless the free market at work.

Or perhaps I should say, "Dios los bendiga?"
 
Why does this make you angry? The article lists several reasons why employers hire immigrants rather than natives.









So the reason why businesses are hiring immigrants is because they already have the skills needed by businesses. That reduces the costs to the businesses for training.

Also, businesses want to hire people who will stay with them. In this economy, there are many overqualifed people applying to these low-wage blue collar jobs that they aren't even trained in.

So why should a business spent the time and money to train a bunch of MBAs in how to be hotel cleaning attendants and tractor drivers when as soon as the economy takes off again they will leave those blue-collar jobs for higher earning white-collar jobs that they went to college to get educated in and need to earn a salary high enough to pay off the student loans to get that education?

That's why the highly educated unemployed in the U.S. is having a difficult time finding low-wage jobs in this economy - it's because businesses know that they likely won't stay with the company once the economy improves and their higher quality skills are demanded by other businesses.

So the issue isn't really trying to stop immigrants from taking unpopular low-wage blue collar jobs. The issue really is, "How can we get native U.S. citizens to work in unpopular low-wage blue collar jobs?"

I have a number of cousins here who have spent their lives in construction. They're slowly but surely losing their jobs because they can't compete effectively with low wage illegals here in arkansas. It's all academic to you guys but it hits pretty close to home out here in the hinterlands.
 
I have a number of cousins here who have spent their lives in construction. They're slowly but surely losing their jobs because they can't compete effectively with low wage illegals here in arkansas. It's all academic to you guys but it hits pretty close to home out here in the hinterlands.

Indeed. The illegal immigrants are willing to work for far less. They rent a cheap apartment with a bunch of other guys, have very low living expenses, and send a lot of their pay home to Mexico or central America.
 
Indeed. The illegal immigrants are willing to work for far less. They rent a cheap apartment with a bunch of other guys, have very low living expenses, and send a lot of their pay home to Mexico or central America.

You left out the gangs. I have ms 13 gang signs just a few blocks from my house. We've also had a number of knifings and a couple of shootings we never had before around here. Also not funny. My wife has stopped walking unless I'm with her. The licence to carry classes have been jammed packed the last few years. The locals are arming.

This is a nice little town. I don't mind change but I'd like it to be positive change. I don't mind immigration but I'd like the gangesters to stay south of the border. We don't need em'.
 
You left out the gangs. I have ms 13 gang signs just a few blocks from my house. We've also had a number of knifings and a couple of shootings we never had before around here. Also not funny. My wife has stopped walking unless I'm with her. The licence to carry classes have been jammed packed the last few years. The locals are arming.

This is a nice little town. I don't mind change but I'd like it to be positive change. I don't mind immigration but I'd like the gangesters to stay south of the border. We don't need em'.

That sounds racist. Gangs and the shootings that result aren't caused by Latinos. I wonder how many you personally know?
 
You left out the gangs. I have ms 13 gang signs just a few blocks from my house. We've also had a number of knifings and a couple of shootings we never had before around here. Also not funny. My wife has stopped walking unless I'm with her. The licence to carry classes have been jammed packed the last few years. The locals are arming.

This is a nice little town. I don't mind change but I'd like it to be positive change. I don't mind immigration but I'd like the gangesters to stay south of the border. We don't need em'.

I know what you mean. Everybody is buying guns now. I used to favor gun control. Now I go to the range and practice head shots to stop intruders.
 
That sounds racist. Gangs and the shootings that result aren't caused by Latinos. I wonder how many you personally know?

Accusations of racism no longer matter. When the illegals are in your face you stop giving a **** about anyone calling you a racist. There are more important considerations.
 
Accusations of racism no longer matter. When the illegals are in your face you stop giving a **** about anyone calling you a racist. There are more important considerations.

So you are saying all gang fights, shootings, and members are Latino? That is racist
 
I know what you mean. Everybody is buying guns now. I used to favor gun control. Now I go to the range and practice head shots to stop intruders.

I'm thinking center of mass would be a better choice. A head is awfully small when you think about it.
 
That sounds racist. Gangs and the shootings that result aren't caused by Latinos. I wonder how many you personally know?

Been to Mexico lately? Regarding learning Spanish, not a chance. They came HERE. I didnt go THERE. And many are illegally here. I'll move before I have to learn a foreign language. Look man, if I move to German Im going to learn German. Get it?
As much as I like the latino culture and their strong family structure (and food) I am NOT bending to accomadate their language when Im living in the middle of my own Country. ;)
 
Been to Mexico lately? Regarding learning Spanish, not a chance. They came HERE. I didnt go THERE. And many are illegally here. I'll move before I have to learn a foreign language. Look man, if I move to German Im going to learn German. Get it?
As much as I like the latino culture and their strong family structure (and food) I am NOT bending to accomadate their language when Im living in the middle of my own Country. ;)

That's fine for you yankees but I'm in arkansas. My guess is the mexican border will be right around texarkana in less than a generation.
 
I didn't get that from his post. Could it be you are just trying too hard?

Ohhhhhh its the whole BS racist card argument. Its utter CRAP. Bottom line is they come over here because their own country sucks. Im not sure how it got that way though. If they could destroy the drug cartels and the Mexican Mafia they would have a chance. Now that its gotten sooooooooooooooo horrible (and it IS horrible there) I feel they need NATO intervention. They will need it sooner or later. I wouldnt even come close to the Mexican border until something is done. But for NOW they are struggling to come over the border where there are jobs and no taliban-like drug cartels. So they will do anything to motivate the Americans and calling us RACIST is one of their tricks. We as a Nation cant ignore this problem for much longer.
 
Ohhhhhh its the whole BS racist card argument. Its utter CRAP. Bottom line is they come over here because their own country sucks. Im not sure how it got that way though. If they could destroy the drug cartels and the Mexican Mafia they would have a chance. Now that its gotten sooooooooooooooo horrible (and it IS horrible there) I feel they need NATO intervention. They will need it sooner or later. I wouldnt even come close to the Mexican border until something is done. But for NOW they are struggling to come over the border where there are jobs and no taliban-like drug cartels. So they will do anything to motivate the Americans and calling us RACIST is one of their tricks. We as a Nation cant ignore this problem for much longer.

Oh, I dunno. Our leadership has been doing a bang up job on that score for quite some time now. I see no reason they can't keep ignoring the problem.
 
More's the pity for you. Fortunately there are plenty of smart businessmen who will.

Until someone gets hurt, or killed, because they were working with heavy equipment and couldn't speak the same language.
 
That sounds racist. Gangs and the shootings that result aren't caused by Latinos. I wonder how many you personally know?

Wow...talking about ignorant statements. You do know that the MS13 Gang is exclusively hispanic right? (hell I live in Idaho and even I know that) You know..the gang that he specifically mentioned being just a few blocks from his house?
 
So you are saying all gang fights, shootings, and members are Latino? That is racist

MS-13 = Mara Salvatrucha, a large Hispanic gang that is primarily composed of Central American and Mexican immigrants. That's not racism, it's a fact that you can substantiate by doing a simple google search. A couple of years ago, people started calling it the world's most dangerous gang.

Fwiw, it's much more dangerous in El Salvador than it is in the U.S., but that's not much comfort to the people who have to share a neighborhood with them.
 
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