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    Re: Hu says China not seeking arms race or domination

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    The safe measure is to not trust China and what they say, or even by what they do because we don't really know what they do - they're still predominantly a closed country.
    But we must not let our mistrust, and our fear consume us...

    China and the United States are going to have to work together to tackle some of the problems that are going to arise in this century. They will ally, or they will fall.

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    Re: Hu says China not seeking arms race or domination

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    But we must not let our mistrust, and our fear consume us...
    China and the United States are going to have to work together to tackle some of the problems that are going to arise in this century. They will ally, or they will fall.
    Until the United States and China can compete on fair terms, the mistrust will continue and should. No fear should consume us - but that doesn't mean we willfully ignore the lack of trust, nor does that mean we don't PLAN and be willing to execute those plans should the mistrust be valid.
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    Re: Hu says China not seeking arms race or domination

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Until the United States and China can compete on fair terms, the mistrust will continue and should. No fear should consume us - but that doesn't mean we willfully ignore the lack of trust, nor does that mean we don't PLAN and be willing to execute those plans should the mistrust be valid.
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    Re: Hu says China not seeking arms race or domination

    Quote Originally Posted by tlmorg02 View Post
    BBC News - Hu says China not seeking arms race or domination



    From every cultural study that I have read on the Chinese peoples and government, it appears that these sentiments are true. Thoughts....
    Bull ****ing ****.

    You don't build aircraft carriers, submarines, long range missiles and bombers, stealth fighters, and anti satellite missiles, (among many other things), UNLESS you are looking to build a military capable of power projection outside one's own borders. As we have witnessed in its ever increasing aggressive moves with Taiwan, disputed islands between Japan and China, and Tibet, China is increasingly flexing its military muscles.

    Peaceful military buildup of China is a farce just as Iran's "peaceful" nuke program. China is positioning itself to become an aggressive international player while giving lip service to calm the fearful and skeptical. The composition and buildup of their military has no other purpose than power projection.

    I predict that once China feels it can match or best the US and other major military might, we will witness drastic changes in China's international actions all while they continue to parrot claims of peace, respect, and sovereignty.

    The best we can hope for is that China's bubble pops, that their civil and human rights stance drastically improves, and/or other countries stepup and effectively counter their influence and power.
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    Re: Hu says China not seeking arms race or domination

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    But we must not let our mistrust, and our fear consume us...

    China and the United States are going to have to work together to tackle some of the problems that are going to arise in this century. They will ally, or they will fall.
    Until they put an honest value on their money, how can we work together?

    When you operate internally as Communists, but on the global market as Capitalists, it makes it impossible for a nation to compete monetarily with them to produce goods and services.

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    Re: Hu says China not seeking arms race or domination

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    But we must not let our mistrust, and our fear consume us...

    China and the United States are going to have to work together to tackle some of the problems that are going to arise in this century. They will ally, or they will fall.
    Did we ally with the USSR?
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    Re: Hu says China not seeking arms race or domination

    The Chinese are not America's friends, but so what? America can't effectively deal with China because Americans are too divided to deal effectively with any foreign power.

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    Re: Hu says China not seeking arms race or domination

    Quote Originally Posted by American
    Please list and explain these policies. I'm calling BULL**** until I see them. The US wants China to stop being a lying bastard on the trading floor. China cheats its ****ing ass off on the valuation of its money.
    I was very obviously talking about the revaluation of the Yuan, which I even referred to. It doesn't matter if you think they're artificially devaluing the currency or not, the fact is that the US wants them to revaluate it and the Chinese don't want to. You can whine about how they're doing it artificially all you want but that's irrelevant to my point.
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    Re: Hu says China not seeking arms race or domination

    There is a nascent naval arms race going on in East Asia right now involving the PRC, ROK and Japan. This is really something to watch over the next couple of decades. China’s Rise = Remilitarizing Japan? | The Diplomat

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    Re: Hu says China not seeking arms race or domination

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Did we ally with the USSR?
    The perils this century holds, far outweighs what has come before. All nations will have to work together. Most likely they won't, some will. But it sure wouldn't hurt having China and the US work together to solve problems.

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