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    Re: "Don't ask, don't tell" cost tops $50,000 per expulsion, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    All of your arguments are based on your experience in combat units alone. Not based on experience working with openly gay personnel in those combat units. There is a difference between the two. This argument is about what issues will most likely arise from allowing gays to serve openly and how those issues may cause casualties. You guys have no proof for your assertion that these things will happen, especially not they will happen often enough to be an actual problem.

    Could allowing gays to serve openly cause deaths? Yes. Will it most likely cause deaths because of a decline of unit cohesion? Not likely, but possible. Can those deaths be blamed on the policy change? Not unless they are widespread.

    Most likely the deaths that might occur will be few and far between and due to other unit personnel who disapprove of the gay personnel. This means that those people who are incapable of maintaining professionalism while in a combat situation by putting their feelings toward others aside and doing their are the ones that should be blamed, not the policy change.
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    Re: "Don't ask, don't tell" cost tops $50,000 per expulsion, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    That is messed up. How can you prove your gay?

    And isn't the policy designed so if somebody else knows your gay and tells, then you can get kicked out? .. and your playing by the rules, not telling

    I think there was a Family Guy episode where Stewie and Brain tried to get kicked out by saying they were gay but it didn't work either... They ended up shooting each other in the foot, so using DADT just to get out has crossed a lot of people's minds. It's in so many movies..
    You don't have to prove you're gay. You only have to get caught performing homosexual acts. "Being gay", isn't was was banned. Performing homosexual acts is.
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    Re: "Don't ask, don't tell" cost tops $50,000 per expulsion, study finds

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    "Don't ask, don't tell" cost tops $50,000 per expulsion, study finds - CNN.com

    Glad to see the GOP and the military were more than willing to spend 50,000 grand per gay just to keep them out. Not to mention many of them were in very skilled positions.
    um... DADT was the democrat's baby. FWIW.

    and DADT is one of the stupidest programs the govt has ever come up with. if gays want to serve, then let em serve.
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    Re: "Don't ask, don't tell" cost tops $50,000 per expulsion, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    um... DADT was the democrat's baby. FWIW.

    and DADT is one of the stupidest programs the govt has ever come up with. if gays want to serve, then let em serve.
    Let us not forget, it was Truman that officially banned gays from serving in the military--another Democrat.
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    Re: "Don't ask, don't tell" cost tops $50,000 per expulsion, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Let us not forget, it was Truman that officially banned gays from serving in the military--another Democrat.
    but, but, but...
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    Re: "Don't ask, don't tell" cost tops $50,000 per expulsion, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You don't have to prove you're gay. You only have to get caught performing homosexual acts. "Being gay", isn't was was banned. Performing homosexual acts is.
    The policy is call don't ask, don't tell... not don't have gay sex, don't get caught

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    Re: "Don't ask, don't tell" cost tops $50,000 per expulsion, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Let us not forget, it was Truman that officially banned gays from serving in the military--another Democrat.
    And Clinton passed a lot of legislation deemed anti gay, but he doesn't get respect from the right for it... lol

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    Re: "Don't ask, don't tell" cost tops $50,000 per expulsion, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The policy is call don't ask, don't tell... not don't have gay sex, don't get caught
    yeah, that falls under a different article... #125
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    Re: "Don't ask, don't tell" cost tops $50,000 per expulsion, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    The policy is call don't ask, don't tell... not don't have gay sex, don't get caught

    The other part of the regulation is the prohibition of homosexual acts.
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    Re: "Don't ask, don't tell" cost tops $50,000 per expulsion, study finds

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Which would mean that same sexual tension would exist with DADT in place or not
    perhaps, but it is severely mitigated.

    People can be attracted to people and control themselves. It happens all the time.
    and they fail to do so all the time. especially when the people in question are that key 18-22 demographic.

    How often are you cuddling with other guys in your unit? Last I checked, you guys get bunks, even in the field, most of the time.
    WTF?!

    bunks in the field??? it had to rain for multiple days for us to be allowed to request to get tents!

    you get bunks when you are in your barracks. otherwise, your 'bunk' (if you choose to carry one) is a piece of styrofoam padding about a foot and a half wide.

    i had a buddy named bernard. let's just say that my first year and a half of marriage, i probably cuddled him more than my wife.
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