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    Re: Arlington Man Loses Gun License Due To Blog About Tucson Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    People saying that this guy is having his rights infringed upon are being silly. People get arrested all the time for inciting violence against others regardless of the fact that there is a 1st amendment. With rights come responsibilities. If he was arguing that politicians should be shot, hey, take his gun away and let him complain about the NWO Jared-style.
    Is it silly? Considering one of the main reasons for the right to keep and bear arms is to protect yourself against the tyranny of state. Considering that rebellion and revolt are considered proper tools of the people if a government acts too grievously against our rights. Considering the very beginnings of our Republic. Is it really silly? I don't think so.

    Also, he didn't incite violence. He made a statement. Stupid or not, he at no point presented a credible threat.
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    Re: Arlington Man Loses Gun License Due To Blog About Tucson Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Not at all. We ALL know that if it is his motivation to actually commit murder he will find a way. What it will accomplish is preciesly what it should accomplish...the revocation of a privelege by someone demonstrating he is too stupid to be allowed to have said privelege. As a CCW permit holder assholes like that piss me off. It gives mindless morons out there a platform to attack ALL CCW holders and call for new rounds of gun control.

    He didnt say "man...I sure understand peoples frustrations with our government and we should work to get them thrown out of office." He endorsed political assassination. I dont suggest they arrest him or throw him in jail. But as a consequence of his choices...I personally am FINE with them removing his right to carry concealed.
    That's the same reactionary thinking that causes people to want to pass more gun laws and ban assault rifles and ban high capacity magazines.

    Just like all other reactionary laws, where does it end? And, who get's to interpret what our comments mean?

    How many times have you been called a racist, because you disagree with a Liberal policy? Is that the level at which we want all our comments interpreted?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Arlington Man Loses Gun License Due To Blog About Tucson Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Maybe. If Blogger was a Muslim, perhaps positions would be reversed and many of us would be saying take his guns away. Sometimes the shoe has to be on our foot before we realize that something is wrong.
    But this isn't true is it? Proponents of gun control do not exempt Muslims from such proposals no matter how much conservatives wish them to.

    Your reply to my post was a hoot. It relies on your fantasies that democratic countries with gun control will suddenly be turned into tyrannies by those governments that just can't help themselves but do anything else....and that when this happens in the USA the people being armed will defeat the standing army, navy and air force in the manner prescribed by the Founding Fathers.

    Is this in a parallel universe? Do you have a date when all this tyranny will prevail in those unAmerican lands where all the dragons live?
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    Re: Arlington Man Loses Gun License Due To Blog About Tucson Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    This is ridiculous in my opinion and possibly unconstitutional.
    Are we going to search everyone's home who has made similar comments on the internet? Granted, I didn't see his words in context to form an opinion as to whether or not it was something to be taken seriously.
    Is his blog out there somewhere?
    What if nothing is done about this, and then he shoots somebody? Then would it be appropriate to talk about how somebody should have taken his guns away?

    I am just asking to open dialogue... I am intersted in what people have to say. I personally think making statements like this should bear some kind of consequence, espically given what happened. WTF... who would honestly get on the internet and make such a tasteless comment in a time like this? This guy is an @sshole, and is acting inappropriate.

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    Re: Arlington Man Loses Gun License Due To Blog About Tucson Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's the same reactionary thinking that causes people to want to pass more gun laws and ban assault rifles and ban high capacity magazines.

    Just like all other reactionary laws, where does it end? And, who get's to interpret what our comments mean?

    How many times have you been called a racist, because you disagree with a Liberal policy? Is that the level at which we want all our comments interpreted?
    I disagree...I think it is more likely that if the pro-firearm ownership crowd had a higher expectation of legal firearm owners, then those that promote bans would be LESS likely to be successful.

    This guy didnt just object to policies, nor did he state that he wanted to see those elected officials voted out. Worlds of difference.

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    Re: Arlington Man Loses Gun License Due To Blog About Tucson Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I disagree...I think it is more likely that if the pro-firearm ownership crowd had a higher expectation of legal firearm owners, then those that promote bans would be LESS likely to be successful.

    This guy didnt just object to policies, nor did he state that he wanted to see those elected officials voted out. Worlds of difference.
    You're usually right, but this is that .1% of the time that you're wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Arlington Man Loses Gun License Due To Blog About Tucson Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You're usually right, but this is that .1% of the time that you're wrong.
    I can accept that!

    I am SO grateful we all dont agree all the time. Lord how BORING would that be. And in the great grand scheme of things...these are just opinions. I dont makle the rules in Boston.

    Not go al Uncle Ben...but I do think firearm ownership while a constitutional right still requires responsiblity. The right to carry concealed is not a constitutional right...thats been decided as a State right issue. People like that jackass make it harder not easier. So...I would just reiterate my final (and 'wrong') position. No arrest...no charges...but I have no problem with the state revoking his concealed carry rights. Actions have consequence.

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    Re: Arlington Man Loses Gun License Due To Blog About Tucson Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I can accept that!

    I am SO grateful we all dont agree all the time. Lord how BORING would that be. And in the great grand scheme of things...these are just opinions. I dont makle the rules in Boston.
    That's a no ****ter.

    Not go al Uncle Ben...but I do think firearm ownership while a constitutional right still requires responsiblity. The right to carry concealed is not a constitutional right...thats been decided as a State right issue. People like that jackass make it harder not easier. So...I would just reiterate my final (and 'wrong') position. No arrest...no charges...but I have no problem with the state revoking his concealed carry rights. Actions have consequence.
    I agree with that 100% and when someone commits a crime with a gun, that person should face the music.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Arlington Man Loses Gun License Due To Blog About Tucson Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by Plato View Post
    But this isn't true is it? Proponents of gun control do not exempt Muslims from such proposals no matter how much conservatives wish them to.

    Your reply to my post was a hoot. It relies on your fantasies that democratic countries with gun control will suddenly be turned into tyrannies by those governments that just can't help themselves but do anything else.
    What would stop the government from becoming tyrannical if the people are not adequately armed? Their word? The founder's documents?


    ...and that when this happens in the USA the people being armed will defeat the standing army, navy and air force in the manner prescribed by the Founding Fathers.
    THe terrorist in Iraq and Afghanistan seem to be doing a pretty good job against our military.
    Is this in a parallel universe? Do you have a date when all this tyranny will prevail in those unAmerican lands where all the dragons live?
    Gun control is a precursor to tyranny.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Arlington Man Loses Gun License Due To Blog About Tucson Shooting

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    What would stop the government from becoming tyrannical if the people are not adequately armed? Their word? The founder's documents?




    THe terrorist in Iraq and Afghanistan seem to be doing a pretty good job against our military.


    Gun control is a precursor to tyranny.
    those who impose gun control are often the people most in need of being shot by honest citizens



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