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Welfare Tab for Children of Illegal Immigrants Estimated at $600M in L.A. County

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Welfare Tab for Children of Illegal Immigrants Estimated at $600M in L.A. County - FoxNews.com

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Combined with public safety costs and health care costs, the official claimed the "total cost for illegal immigrants to county (Los Angeles County ) taxpayers" was more than $1.6 billion in 2010. "Not including the hundreds of millions of dollars for education," he said in a statement.
...The organization reported that the cost of illegal immigration (US) stands at about $113 billion a year.
 
To think that is just a county...my gosh.

Has anyone done anything on the overall cost in America and the total cost of illegals using the health care system?
 
To think that is just a county...my gosh.

Has anyone done anything on the overall cost in America and the total cost of illegals using the health care system?

The cost of educating the children of illegal immigrants in the United States is estimated at $14.3 billion in 2010. An additional $1.2 billion is spent teaching them to speak English. The Cost Of Educating "Anchor Babies" In The USA

Data on health care costs for illegal immigrants are sketchy because hospitals and community health centers don't ask about patients' legal status. In California, a 2004 study by the Federation for American Immigration Reform put the state's annual cost at $1.4 billion. Similar studies in Colorado and Minnesota in 2005 came up with much smaller estimates: $31 million and $17 million, respectively.
Rising health care costs put focus on illegal immigrants - USATODAY.com

In the meantime:

Republican lawmakers are expressing shock over a Labor Department ad campaign that offers government assistance to illegal immigrants who think they're getting shortchanged for their work -- and at least one of them is planning to write to Labor Secretary Hilda Solis for an explanation.
Labor Dept. Offers Assistance to Illegal Immigrants Facing Wage Disparities - FoxNews.com
 
America wants to be a Third World Country. The American people must want to become impoverished otherwise they wouldn't allow this to happen. It quite simply is too late for America. We're passed the tipping point.
 
We do not need to be educating illegal aliens, but sending them back. However, we can't let their children starve to death. They deserve food. So let's give them food. Set up a welfare office especially for illegal aliens, and advertise the hell out of it. When an illegal family walks through the door, give them all a sandwich, and send them out the back door to a bus waiting to take them back to Mexico. Bingo, the kids get food. :mrgreen:
 
but, but, but....:2bigcry: according to the liberals we are getting the best and brightest illegals from mexico, hard working motivated individuals who are a benefit to our society. stop with all your filthy lies about how illegals are a drain on our economy. :2bigcry:
 
Instead of complaining about welfare for illegals, how about getting rid of the welfare system completely. Our loose and constantly abused welfare system is one of the causes for illegal immigration.
 
If it weren't for all the racists and xenophobes in America, it wouldn't be a problem to break the bank, footing the bill to feed a buncha illegal brats.
 
If it weren't for all the racists and xenophobes in America, it wouldn't be a problem to break the bank, footing the bill to feed a buncha illegal brats.

meh, those evil rich greedy republican fat cats have plenty of cash to feed, house and clothe every dirtbag in america and then some.

liberals love illegals because they know if and when at all possible they will vote democrat.
 
The cost of educating the children of illegal immigrants in the United States is estimated at $14.3 billion in 2010. An additional $1.2 billion is spent teaching them to speak English. The Cost Of Educating "Anchor Babies" In The USA

The "children of illegal immigrants"? You mean people who were born in this country, and are therefore just as much American citizens as you or anyone else? Educating our young people is an investment, not a cost. The entire premise of your complaint stems from the notion that these American citizens are "the other" and somehow different from you. No one would ever complain about the cost of educating black people, or the cost of educating Jews. So why is it acceptable to do so with THIS group of American citizens?
 
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...So why is it acceptable to do so with THIS group of American citizens?


These are the children of colonists who seek to benefit from their parents' violation of American law. They are the beneficiaries of illegality.

There is nothing that can be done to stop them. As a technical matter of law they are American citizens, but they will never be my fellow citizens. Let them have all the rights they want and let America burn in hell.
 
I think we should simply conquere Mexico and make it the next Florida. We could use our military to wipeout all of the drug cartels, take over the nation and let the retiring babyboomers move there for the warm climate! All the illegals will be legal and have to pay taxes!
 
These are the children of colonists who seek to benefit from their parents' violation of American law. They are the beneficiaries of illegality.

I'm guessing that someone in your lineage (if your family has been here more than a generation or two) was probably an illegal immigrant. So rather than being selectively outraged at American citizens for the actions of their ancestors, let's just dispense with the racist arguments entirely and call these children what they are: American citizens, who deserve to be educated just as much as any other American citizens.
 
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BTW did this guy state where he got these figures from or are we just trusting random people to their word now?
 
The "children of illegal immigrants"? You mean people who were born in this country, and are therefore just as much American citizens as you or anyone else?

No. We mean children of foreign nationals who are born subject to the jurisdiction of their parents home countries.
No where in the US Constitution is a person granted citizenship solely on the act of being born on US soil. A person's parentage is a major factor on citizenship in this country. If even one parent is a citizen of another country then the baby is born a citizen of that country and not the US. That is why the 14th Amendment contains the stipulation "...and subject to the jurisdiction..." in the first paragraph. The writers agreed that was to mean 'subject to the complete jurisdiction of the US'. Or, more importantly, not subject to the jurisdiction of any other country.
 
No. We mean children of foreign nationals who are born subject to the jurisdiction of their parents home countries.

No. The link to which I responded specifically referred to "anchor babies," which is a term used exclusively for people born in this country.

keymanjim said:
No where in the US Constitution is a person granted citizenship solely on the act of being born on US soil. A person's parentage is a major factor on citizenship in this country. If even one parent is a citizen of another country then the baby is born a citizen of that country and not the US. That is why the 14th Amendment contains the stipulation "...and subject to the jurisdiction..." in the first paragraph. The writers agreed that was to mean 'subject to the complete jurisdiction of the US'. Or, more importantly, not subject to the jurisdiction of any other country.

That just means that the children of foreign diplomats or Native Americans are not necessarily US citizens, since they are not subject to the jurisdiction of US laws when they are here. All other foreigners, whether they're here legally or not, are subject to the jurisdiction of the US. It's that jurisdiction that gives USCIS the ability to deport illegal immigrants in the first place.

Any children of illegal immigrants who are born in this country are American citizens. If you have a problem with that, too bad. They have all the same rights that you do.
 
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I'm guessing that someone in your lineage (if your family has been here more than a generation or two) was probably an illegal immigrant. So rather than being selectively outraged at American citizens for the actions of their ancestors, let's just dispense with the racist arguments entirely and call these children what they are: American citizens, who deserve to be educated just as much as any other American citizens.

It's their country now. They can do whatever they want with it. I'm a stranger in a strange land.

Edit: No illegal immigrants in my background.
 
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The "children of illegal immigrants"? You mean people who were born in this country, and are therefore just as much American citizens as you or anyone else? Educating our young people is an investment, not a cost. The entire premise of your complaint stems from the notion that these American citizens are "the other" and somehow different from you. No one would ever complain about the cost of educating black people, or the cost of educating Jews. So why is it acceptable to do so with THIS group of American citizens?

No, I don't mean just mean children who were born in this country and are citizens. The statistics are for children of illegal immigrants....all of them. Children being citizens or not. Operative stat being whether or not the parents are legal. I have no complaint. I didn't post one. I merely posted facts. Since when don't we want facts?
 
Instead of complaining about welfare for illegals, how about getting rid of the welfare system completely. Our loose and constantly abused welfare system is one of the causes for illegal immigration.

God damn!!!!! When did you grow a pair?
 
No, I don't mean just mean children who were born in this country and are citizens. The statistics are for children of illegal immigrants....all of them. Children being citizens or not.

Your link is called "The Cost of Educating Anchor Babies." That means the kids are citizens...otherwise there is no anchor.

MaggieD said:
Operative stat being whether or not the parents are legal. I have no complaint. I didn't post one. I merely posted facts. Since when don't we want facts?

So you wouldn't find anything offensive about someone lamenting how much it "costs" to educate black people? Or some other group of American citizens?
 
Good lord this thread is like a conservative circle jerk. Are there any other sources for these figures besides Fox News? I guess I'll add my two cents of centrism to the debate: To be honest, the issue of illegal immigration is one of the things that keeps me in the center, if not for that and a few other issues like wellfare and abortion, I'd probably be a genuine leftist. All three of those issues are simply cases where the left went too far left, where the desire to help others and provide more liberties has had more negative consequences than positive ones. I grew up with hispanics and I love my Chicano friends and I believe in policies like the Dream Act for the children who are already here IF, and I mean IF something is really done to shut the borders because that will only give Mexicans more incentive to cross over illegally for better opportunities for their kids. There are 112 million people sitting directly south of the border in a society that is riddled with outrageous crime, corruption and other social problems. I really don't want them all coming here.
 
No. The link to which I responded specifically referred to "anchor babies," which is a term used exclusively for people born in this country.



That just means that the children of foreign diplomats or Native Americans are not necessarily US citizens, since they are not subject to the jurisdiction of US laws when they are here. All other foreigners, whether they're here legally or not, are subject to the jurisdiction of the US. It's that jurisdiction that gives USCIS the ability to deport illegal immigrants in the first place.

Any children of illegal immigrants who are born in this country are American citizens. If you have a problem with that, too bad. They have all the same rights that you do.

When asked for clarification of this phrase, Sen. Lyman Trumbull, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, author of the 13th Amendment, and the one who inserted the phrase in the 14th replied:

"The provision is, that 'all persons born in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens.' That means 'subject to the complete jurisdiction thereof.' What do we mean by 'complete jurisdiction thereof?' Not owing allegiance to anybody else. That is what it means. "

If a baby is born in the US and even one of its parents is a citizen of another country then that baby is subject to that parents country’s jurisdiction and is not a citizen of the US.
THAT is the law.
 
If a baby is born in the US and even one of its parents is a citizen of another country then that baby is subject to that parents country’s jurisdiction and is not a citizen of the US.
THAT is the law.


Hmm that would suck for my niece if it were true whose mother is Scottish
 
When asked for clarification of this phrase, Sen. Lyman Trumbull, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, author of the 13th Amendment, and the one who inserted the phrase in the 14th replied:



If a baby is born in the US and even one of its parents is a citizen of another country then that baby is subject to that parents country’s jurisdiction and is not a citizen of the US.
THAT is the law.

Unfortunately for you, the Supreme Court has disagreed with you for the last 146 years.
 
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