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    Re: Welfare Tab for Children of Illegal Immigrants Estimated at $600M in L.A. County

    Quote Originally Posted by keymanjim View Post
    When asked for clarification of this phrase, Sen. Lyman Trumbull, Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, author of the 13th Amendment, and the one who inserted the phrase in the 14th replied:



    If a baby is born in the US and even one of its parents is a citizen of another country then that baby is subject to that parents country’s jurisdiction and is not a citizen of the US.
    THAT is the law.
    That is one INTERPRETATION of the law. SCOTUS has already ruled that the child of foreign nationals is a citizen of the U.S. The wording of the amendment is quite clear on this matter.

    You DO realize that not every country recognizes citizenship by birth and what you are suggesting would leave some children stateless...
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    Re: Welfare Tab for Children of Illegal Immigrants Estimated at $600M in L.A. County

    recent good news from more of we politically incorrect Americans heros...

    Lawmakers in 14 States Craft Bill to Deny Citizenship to Anchor Babies:

    Lawmakers in 14 States Craft Bill to Deny Citizenship to 'Anchor Babies' - FoxNews.com

    Steve King (R-Iowa) Submits Bill To Stop Anchor Babies:

    Steve King (R-Iowa) Submits Bill To Stop Anchor Babies Ľ Pirate's Cove


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    Re: Welfare Tab for Children of Illegal Immigrants Estimated at $600M in L.A. County

    SCOTUS has already ruled that the child of foreign nationals is a citizen of the U.S. The wording of the amendment is quite clear on this matter.
    When?

    I bet the Native Americans are somewhere laughing their ass-off over all the complaining going on over illegal immigration!
    What did their constitution say about the matter??

    I'm guessing that someone in your lineage (if your family has been here more than a generation or two) was probably an illegal immigrant.
    I guessing that you donít know much about the history of immigration laws. When they were first passed??

    you ARE subject to the jurisdiction of the U.S.
    You canít be drafted. You have the protection of the law but not all of the obligations.

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    Re: Welfare Tab for Children of Illegal Immigrants Estimated at $600M in L.A. County

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    That is one INTERPRETATION of the law. SCOTUS has already ruled that the child of foreign nationals is a citizen of the U.S. The wording of the amendment is quite clear on this matter.

    You DO realize that not every country recognizes citizenship by birth and what you are suggesting would leave some children stateless...
    Not all supreme court cases agree with this.
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    Re: Welfare Tab for Children of Illegal Immigrants Estimated at $600M in L.A. County

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Not all supreme court cases agree with this.
    Wong vs. Arkansas has been cited multiple times. Care to cite your own case? Also, common law recognizes jus soli citizenship and has since before the formation of the United States of America...
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    Re: Welfare Tab for Children of Illegal Immigrants Estimated at $600M in L.A. County

    Quote Originally Posted by 70s_guy View Post
    recent good news from more of we politically incorrect Americans heros...

    Lawmakers in 14 States Craft Bill to Deny Citizenship to Anchor Babies:

    Lawmakers in 14 States Craft Bill to Deny Citizenship to 'Anchor Babies' - FoxNews.com

    Steve King (R-Iowa) Submits Bill To Stop Anchor Babies:

    Steve King (R-Iowa) Submits Bill To Stop Anchor Babies Ľ Pirate's Cove
    IMO, and I'm betting SCOTUS's opinion, there is no bill in the world that can be drafted to deny citizenship to anchor babies. It would take repeal of Section I of the 14th Amendment. That would take 2/3 of both the Senate and House as well as ratification by 3/4 of the states. I don't see that happening. On the other hand, if things get worse (the economy), I wouldn't be surprised to see a movement start in that direction.
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