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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

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    Right....because the web address wpasinglepayer.org is all about reporting unbiased information.
    Lol. The source may be biased. The Polls are still there in black and white.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Another Poll Shows Majority Support for Single-Payer – Healthcare-NOW!


    I guess now is where we get into the "my poll is better" mode.
    "healthcare NOW"? I'm sure poll isn't skewered...
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    I have noticed that liberals mention reasons why Obama won't allow repeal of obamacare as "it would inflame his base", "he would lose the support of his party", "that would make the democratic party mad" or " vetoing it would reinvigorate his base" etc. Nothing is mentioned of the desire of the American people, the good of the country, etc. Everything obama does is about Obama, getting reelected, pleasing his base, etc. Nowhere is America or American people mentioned. Wow, just wow, lefties. Nothing like being blatent about your lack of care for the country and your sole desire to run Washington. I think zero respect has become negative respect for the left.

    Hey guys, just a little FYI, the country comes first, not the democratic party.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    I have noticed that liberals mention reasons why Obama won't aloe repeal of obamacare as "it would inflame his base", "he would lose the support of his party", "that would make the democratic party mad" or " vetoing it would reinvigorate his base" etc. Nothing is mentioned of te desire of the American people, the good of the country, etc. Everything obama does is about Obama, getting reelected, pleasing his base, etc. Nowhere is America or American people mentioned. Wow, just wow, lefties. Nothing like being blatent about your lack of care for te country and your sole desire to run Washington. I think zero respect has become negative respect for the left.

    Hey guys, just a little FYI, the country comes first, not the democratic party.
    I don't see the Republicans doing anything different. Would a Republican vote for the health care bill if he/she thought it was a good idea? No way. It would "affect their base". However, in a big picture way, I completely agree with you. Call me cynical, but I don't believe any politician actually cares about the US. I believe they only have two purposes: to beat the other party and to either get elected or stay in office. Nothing else. All of them.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    I have noticed that liberals mention reasons why Obama won't aloe repeal of obamacare as "it would inflame his base", "he would lose the support of his party", "that would make the democratic party mad" or " vetoing it would reinvigorate his base" etc. Nothing is mentioned of te desire of the American people, the good of the country, etc. Everything obama does is about Obama, getting reelected, pleasing his base, etc. Nowhere is America or American people mentioned. Wow, just wow, lefties. Nothing like being blatent about your lack of care for te country and your sole desire to run Washington. I think zero respect has become negative respect for the left.

    Hey guys, just a little FYI, the country comes first, not the democratic party.
    Noooo, we can't have that. That means that the unwashed masses get to have an opinion.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    "healthcare NOW"? I'm sure poll isn't skewered...
    Read the POLL not the SOURCE. Poll done by CBS/New York Times.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    this one has more examples and is probably a lot more specific:

    Single-Payer Poll, Survey, and Initiative Results
    'probably'? Did you even READ any of that?

    Most are state level, not national.

    MOSTdo not even mention 'single-payer'.

    The TIME poll was 49% to 46% for single-payer... hardly a mandate, and not even outside the margin of error. AND it was from 2009.

    The Yahoo News (really? Yahoo Nws polls???) was Yes 54%, No 44% on single-payer... with a margin of error at about 3%, that's not that big an endorsement of single payer either...AND it was from 2007

    That's it. 2 polls... with numbers that are hardly even close to a mandate for single-payer.

    I think you're maybe not trying hard enough.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy View Post
    I have noticed that liberals mention reasons why Obama won't aloe repeal of obamacare as "it would inflame his base", "he would lose the support of his party", "that would make the democratic party mad" or " vetoing it would reinvigorate his base" etc.
    Those things are typically mentioned in response to moronic claims that repealing it would help his chances of reelection. No one is arguing that it should or should not be the reason he does something.

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy
    Nothing is mentioned of te desire of the American people,
    OK, let's talk about the desire of the American people then. According to the most recent poll I've seen, support and opposition are about equal. 40% support to 41% oppose. And many of those who oppose it think it didn't go far enough. In other words, the Democratic position on health care reform is a lot closer to the median voter than the Republican position.
    Poll: Opposition to Health Care Reform Eases - CBS News

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    the good of the country, etc.
    Yeah, that's been hashed out all over this forum for the past two years. Sorry if you and your 908 posts missed that.

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy
    Everything obama does is about Obama, getting reelected, pleasing his base, etc.
    That sounds like an implicit acknowledgement that the health care reform improves his chances of getting reelected. Yes?

    Quote Originally Posted by dontworrybehappy
    Nowhere is America or American people mentioned. Wow, just wow, lefties. Nothing like being blatent about your lack of care for te country and your sole desire to run Washington. I think zero respect has become negative respect for the left.

    Hey guys, just a little FYI, the country comes first, not the democratic party.
    If you want to discuss the impact of the health care reform bill, in terms of policy, there are no shortage of threads on this forum in which to do so.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Read the POLL not the SOURCE. Poll done by CBS/New York Times.
    Not much of an improvement.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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