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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I guess time will show the wiser

    tune in in 22 months
    You won't have to wait that long.

    Say, have you heard a lot about the New York Mosque lately?

    No? I wonder why.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Centrist View Post
    I just don't respect people who can't think for themselves, and who can't come up with new ideas yet criticize others who try to. In almost every work place and industry in America, those who are creative, innovative and come up with new ideas to improve their industry are the most successful. This is what makes America the greatest nation in the world. The freedoms Capitalism gives allows people to come up with new ideas. Those people in the work place who can't come up with new ideas and who only can obey orders are the laborers. Its really annoying to me when laborers constantly criticize the executives for coming up with changes and new ideas to improve the company, even if those ideas sometimes don't work. In the same sense its really annoying to me when people who can't come up with solutions for the problems of America, like health care, simply stand on their soap box or sit behind a key board and slander those who are trying to make changes. What good are a whole bunch of complaints without adding any suggestions? It makes this forum an unpleasant place to debate, and this country an unpleasant place to live in. If anyone has a problem with Obama's health care reform, instead of just slandering the guy and calling him Hitler or a Socialist and criticizing the bill until you're blue in the face, why not try offering up a suggestion for a change? But I don't think many conservatives are able to do that. In my dictionary the definition for conservative is "holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion." This caution to change limits countries from progressing and improving, and inhibits new ideas.
    One thing is constant, there will be change. Anythng that refuses to change, will likely die.

    health care in this country will HAVE to change sooner or later. While this reform is imperfect, it is at least moving toward change. As noted earlier, I would prefer our elected leaders accepted change and worked to incorporate good ideas from both sides to create something that is better than what we have today.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I guess you cannot fathom the fact that some of us tire of a nanny government that grossly disrespects the boundaries placed upon it by the foundation upon which this nation was built upon-the constitution and whether health care is "good" or "bad" is really not relevant if it is contrary to the tenth amendment which I firmly believe it is
    They said the same thing about Social Security.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You won't have to wait that long.

    Say, have you heard a lot about the New York Mosque lately?

    No? I wonder why.
    yeah that is relevant to this debate

    how are the courts going to rule on the suits Karnak?



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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    They said the same thing about Social Security.
    and its still true-that FDR's lapdog Justices disregarded 100+ years of precedent culminating with the properly decided Schechter Poultry case is a jurisprudential disgrace



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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yeah that is relevant to this debate

    how are the courts going to rule on the suits Karnak?
    It's relevant to the point of how the GOP does poltiics. They seize an issue, get FOX and the right wing pundits to strum up some fake news about it, and after they have gotten elected, they drift away from it.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    It's relevant to the point of how the GOP does poltiics. They seize an issue, get FOX and the right wing pundits to strum up some fake news about it, and after they have gotten elected, they drift away from it.
    when I see someone ranting about "Fox news" that pretty much ends me seeing the poster as being serious.



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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    and its still true-that FDR's lapdog Justices disregarded 100+ years of precedent culminating with the properly decided Schechter Poultry case is a jurisprudential disgrace
    Yeah, I imagine if you believe Social Security is unconstitutional then you will feel that way about the health care reform. It'll certainly be an interesting court case to watch.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    when I see someone ranting about "Fox news" that pretty much ends me seeing the poster as being serious.
    Meh. How you choose to percieve posters is irrelevant to the truth behind the statement.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Meh. How you choose to percieve posters is irrelevant to the truth behind the statement.
    what truth? post some empirical evidence to support your Fox rant



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