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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    It's just a fact.
    Only problem is, it's not, as KSU pointed out, just now. Would you like a link to that post?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I am talking about hearing about the numbers I heard about from mid 08. I could try and look it up, but it's not that important.
    KSU and I saying you're wrong, KSU proved you wrong, which make both of us right, so until you provide us with some proof, you're wrong.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Agreed. Though he'll be put in a very interesting position. The 2012 election will then no doubt focus on healthcare. Don't want healthcare? Vote Republican. How sure are you President Obama??
    Are you kidding? He campaigned heavily on health care in 2008 and won by a substantial margin. Even if he was inclined to care more about his reelection than about health care (for which I haven't seen any evidence so far), do you really think that supporting repeal of his signature domestic achievement would help him win reelection? This is one of the most ludicrous assessments I've seen in quite a while.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Actually, that is a lie:

    Another Poll Shows Majority Support for Single-Payer – Healthcare-NOW!
    A New York Times/CBS News poll released last week shows, yet again, that the majority of Americans support national health insurance.
    The poll, which compares answers to the same questions from 30 years ago, finds that, 59% [of Americans] say the government should provide national health insurance, including 49% who say such insurance should cover all medical problems.
    Only 32% think that insurance should be left to private enterprise.
    I guess now is where we get into the "my poll is better" mode.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    A Bush policy. Where is he now?
    A policy. And his party backed away from a stupid policy. Anyone can. Bush could have.

    He didn't.

    But the difference here is Obama has a sound policy, distorted by ssome on your side.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    I am talking about hearing about the numbers I heard about from mid 08. I could try and look it up, but it's not that important.
    do mid '08 numbers matter?

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I hope you're right. It will be another guarantee that he will be a one term prez.
    Or assure a second term. Remember, a good deal of those opposed to the bill think it doesn't go far enough. All he has to do is turn them. Do keep that in mind.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    Another Poll Shows Majority Support for Single-Payer – Healthcare-NOW!


    I guess now is where we get into the "my poll is better" mode.
    Funny... neither the article you linked to, not the report it links to... mentions 'single payer'.

    National health insurance is not nec. 'single-payer'... so your post is kind of pointless..and misleading.
    Last edited by Whovian; 01-19-11 at 07:43 PM.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Are you kidding? He campaigned heavily on health care in 2008 and won by a substantial margin. Even if he was inclined to care more about his reelection than about health care (for which I haven't seen any evidence so far), do you really think that supporting repeal of his signature domestic achievement would help him win reelection? This is one of the most ludicrous assessments I've seen in quite a while.
    You didn't notice how many people are opposed to socialist healtcare reform? Were you sleeping in November?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    The vast majority of Americans don't want this puke in a bucket, so if Dems want to run in 2012 on this, prepare for a landslide of biblical proportions.
    First of all, the health care reform legislation isn't THAT unpopular. It's about 45% support and 50% oppose, according to the most recent polls I've seen. Hardly the makings of a landslide of biblical proportions, especially considering that it's only one issue. And among those who oppose it, a substantial minority of them think it didn't go FAR ENOUGH in reforming our health care system.

    Second of all, the idea that Obama would be helping himself by supporting its repeal is absurd. Just like always, the Democratic coalition will be made up of liberals and moderates, and the Republican coalition will be made up of conservatives and moderates. So how exactly would it be a good thing for Obama to infuriate his base? He isn't going to win an endorsement from the National Review and the Heritage Foundation regardless of what he does.

    I love all this political advice to Obama coming from people who undoubtedly have his best interests at heart.
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