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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    maybe maybe not but it will create an issue in 2012.

    I predict healthcare reform will look better in 2012

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    maybe maybe not but it will create an issue in 2012.
    I'm going to guess that the GOP is going to distance itself from health care repeal. The false claims of it being a "government take over of health care" and such are no longer taking hold in the American public. The best the GOP can hope for at this point is to try to starve it by restricting funding or chipping away at it.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    maybe maybe not but it will create an issue in 2012.
    definitely DOA...no maybe about it

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    This is one of those many times that I wish the idiots in Washington could put their stupid partisanship aside and work together. There are good things in healthcare plans from BOTH sides. If they would sit down. take the best points from each, and craft something sensible,
    We already took many of the best ideas from both sides and crafted something sensible. The Democrats gave us subsidies for the poor, a ban on preexisting conditions, a focus on information technology to create standardized processes, and minimum standards of acceptable coverage. The Republicans gave us an individual mandate, a focus on higher deductible plans, and a Cadillac tax on the most expensive plans purchased through the workplace.

    These things were all good ideas. But one side then chose to disavow all their good ideas, because scoring political points was more important.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    definitely DOA...no maybe about it
    Doesn't matter. It will force Senators like Joe Manchin of WV to decide whether he wants vote conservatively like he ran last year or face being booted out of office by the voters after only 2 years in the Senate.

    It will also force those running for reelection in 2012 to actually address the issue rather than ignore it like most Dems did last year.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Doesn't matter. It will force Senators like Joe Manchin of WV to decide whether he wants vote conservatively like he ran last year or face being booted out of office by the voters after only 2 years in the Senate.

    It will also force those running for reelection in 2012 to actually address the issue rather than ignore it like most Dems did last year.
    Not very likely. The fabrication, lies, and propaganda that were spread about the health care reform are wearing thin. In 2 years, I imagine you will hardly hear a peep about it out of the GOP.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by Mach View Post
    I am genuinely curious what reasoned steps brought you to that conclusion from what TD wrote...that it's not his duty to provide others with a perfect solution, nor does he pretend he can.
    I just don't respect people who can't think for themselves, and who can't come up with new ideas yet criticize others who try to. In almost every work place and industry in America, those who are creative, innovative and come up with new ideas to improve their industry are the most successful. This is what makes America the greatest nation in the world. The freedoms Capitalism gives allows people to come up with new ideas. Those people in the work place who can't come up with new ideas and who only can obey orders are the laborers. Its really annoying to me when laborers constantly criticize the executives for coming up with changes and new ideas to improve the company, even if those ideas sometimes don't work. In the same sense its really annoying to me when people who can't come up with solutions for the problems of America, like health care, simply stand on their soap box or sit behind a key board and slander those who are trying to make changes. What good are a whole bunch of complaints without adding any suggestions? It makes this forum an unpleasant place to debate, and this country an unpleasant place to live in. If anyone has a problem with Obama's health care reform, instead of just slandering the guy and calling him Hitler or a Socialist and criticizing the bill until you're blue in the face, why not try offering up a suggestion for a change? But I don't think many conservatives are able to do that. In my dictionary the definition for conservative is "holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion." This caution to change limits countries from progressing and improving, and inhibits new ideas.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Doesn't matter. It will force Senators like Joe Manchin of WV to decide whether he wants vote conservatively like he ran last year or face being booted out of office by the voters after only 2 years in the Senate.

    It will also force those running for reelection in 2012 to actually address the issue rather than ignore it like most Dems did last year.
    it will also force republican senators to explain a repeal vote to those constituents who are benefitting from the law.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Not very likely. The fabrication, lies, and propaganda that were spread about the health care reform are wearing thin. In 2 years, I imagine you will hardly hear a peep about it out of the GOP.
    I guess time will show the wiser

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Centrist View Post
    I just don't respect people who can't think for themselves, and who can't come up with new ideas yet criticize others who try to. In almost every work place and industry in America, those who are creative, innovative and come up with new ideas to improve their industry are the most successful. This is what makes America the greatest nation in the world. The freedoms Capitalism gives allows people to come up with new ideas. Those people in the work place who can't come up with new ideas and who only can obey orders are the laborers. Its really annoying to me when laborers constantly criticize the executives for coming up with changes and new ideas to improve the company, even if those ideas sometimes don't work. In the same sense its really annoying to me when people who can't come up with solutions for the problems of America, like health care, simply stand on their soap box or sit behind a key board and slander those who are trying to make changes. What good are a whole bunch of complaints without adding any suggestions? It makes this forum an unpleasant place to debate, and this country an unpleasant place to live in. If anyone has a problem with Obama's health care reform, instead of just slandering the guy and calling him Hitler or a Socialist and criticizing the bill until you're blue in the face, why not try offering up a suggestion for a change? But I don't think many conservatives are able to do that. In my dictionary the definition for conservative is "holding to traditional attitudes and values and cautious about change or innovation, typically in relation to politics or religion." This caution to change limits countries from progressing and improving, and inhibits new ideas.
    I guess you cannot fathom the fact that some of us tire of a nanny government that grossly disrespects the boundaries placed upon it by the foundation upon which this nation was built upon-the constitution and whether health care is "good" or "bad" is really not relevant if it is contrary to the tenth amendment which I firmly believe it is



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