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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You end up paying either way, and there are far more controls to this payment if there are contributions by everyone. I'm sure you don't like that, but it's accurate.
    you're defending the mandate?

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Centrist View Post
    Some of us with money believe in a certain amount of social services.
    then you should pay for them

    pay more

    there are people in need

    don't be a hypocrite, now

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    That's accurate. I haven't watched C-Span in ages. WAY too slow for me. Doesn't NV mean "no vote"?
    It means they hadn't voted yet. There was still over 3 minutes left to do so. I didn't watch it but it was probably a 15 min. vote. A lot of times most of the voting is done in the last few minutes.
    I think the final vote was all republicans + 4 dems voted to repeal and the rest of the dems voted against repeal.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    you're defending the mandate?

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    more power to you

    party on
    No. I am completely against mandating folks to pay for health care. Of all the provisions, that is the ONE that I am completely against. My comment was a more general statement, indicating that we all pay for those who are not insured, anyway. There need to be more controls on how.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    No. I am completely against mandating folks to pay for health care. Of all the provisions, that is the ONE that I am completely against. My comment was a more general statement, indicating that we all pay for those who are not insured, anyway. There need to be more controls on how.
    Taxing people without healthcare is hardly the same as mandating that people to pay for healthcare. The distinction is subtle, but it makes all the difference.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    This is pretty accurate. And has been going on for decades. I don't remember the last time I actually voted FOR someone.
    I know what you mean.
    However I did vote for Palin.
    I held my nose for McCain.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    After a heated midterm election, the Republican-led House easily passed legislation to repeal the nation's sweeping health care law.

    The vote was 245-189. There were four Democrats that voted for repeal.

    House passes repeal of health care law - On Politics: Covering the US Congress, Governors, and the 2012 Election - USATODAY.com

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    This is nothing more than symbolic gesture and you people are making a big deal out of nothing.This is their token attempt at repealing Obama care. If republicans had a majority in both congress and senate and a republican president or had a veto proof majority then sure this would be something to get exited about. The only purpose of this is so they can say "look we tried and it didn't work" and that will be the excuse that they will use for not ever bringing up an Obama care repeal again.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Taxing people without healthcare is hardly the same as mandating that people to pay for healthcare. The distinction is subtle, but it makes all the difference.
    So subtle that it almost doesn't exist. [/sarcasm]
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Taxing people without healthcare is hardly the same as mandating that people to pay for healthcare. The distinction is subtle, but it makes all the difference.
    It may be subtle, but it seems more like a mandate to me.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I am completely against mandating folks to pay for health care.
    so is senator mccaskill from the centrist show me state of missouri

    the show me's are famous for picking presidents and by the most accurate of margins

    missouri is still the most famous bellwether in the country, where 71% voted for measure c in august (i believe) to unmake the mandate

    insiders all say that if this loyalist water carrier for obamacare, mccaskill, is against criminalizing americans caught breathing without coverage, then surely joe manchin and ben nelson and kent conrad and joe lieberman and jim webb and jon tester and bill nelson are in play

    the mandate really is within reach, and if the mandate is kicked out obamacare collapses

    even if it's not, airing the senators' stances will be deadly telling

    it will almost surely cost some people their jobs

    harry will try to keep it off the floor, it's true, but it will likely require a filibuster

    and the PARTY IN POWER filibustering is really quite the anomoly---it aint gonna play

    we'll see what happens next

    i'll be sure to keep the forum fully informed

    i'll see it on cspan, and politico (if no one else) will surely cover it

    actually, msnbc's coffee joe in the morning (insufferable as it may be with all its adolescent smirking and smarminess) is in reality an outlet, a vehicle, for roger simon's journolisters

    ie, msnbc is usually as good as politico

    stay up

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