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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    see my above response to Hazlnut

    what part of the constitution properly allows that
    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Because other people NOT having healthcare will affect you and will cost you... under the current conditions. You end up paying either way, and there are far more controls to this payment if there are contributions by everyone. I'm sure you don't like that, but it's accurate. No one lives in a bubble.
    all that would be moot if the federal government had not engaged in this area and made us pay for others



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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
    epic fail-its easy to see when someone has absolutely no understanding of the constitution. that concept of welfare is not income redistribution



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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy
    Because other people NOT having healthcare will affect you and will cost you... under the current conditions. You end up paying either way, and there are far more controls to this payment if there are contributions by everyone. I'm sure you don't like that, but it's accurate. No one lives in a bubble.
    It's a funny argument, isn't it?

    "Why should I have to pay more taxes towards the school system? I don't have any kids in school!"
    "Why should I have to pay taxes towards roads? I don't own a car!"

    The funny thing, though, is that this would be a system that Turtledude would actually use. So it's even more absurd.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    all that would be moot if the federal government had not engaged in this area and made us pay for others
    You still haven't answered my question and provided a solution. Let me guess, you don't have one.

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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    all that would be moot if the federal government had not engaged in this area and made us pay for others
    Ronpaultopia never has existed, and never will exist, anywhere outside of your imagination. So we should have PRACTICAL methods of paying for things instead of impractical methods of paying for things.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Centrist View Post
    You still haven't answered my question and provided a solution. Let me guess, you don't have one.
    Its not an area where the federal government has the proper authority to create a solution

    I guess you haven't been around long enough to understand that I take the tenth amendment rather seriously.



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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    epic fail-its easy to see when someone has absolutely no understanding of the constitution. that concept of welfare is not income redistribution
    You asked why you should have to pay for it, not why we have it in the first place. The reason is that Congress has the power to collect taxes. If that wasn't the question you wanted answered, learn to ****ing form a proper sentence instead of blaming me for your incoherence.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    all that would be moot if the federal government had not engaged in this area and made us pay for others
    Actually, all that would be moot if there were far more regulations on insurance company abuses, so they would actually listen to providers and allow customers to use their benefits appropriately. If THAT happened, other than the regulations instructing this, the federal government would not need to be involved.
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    Re: Health Care Reform Repeal Passes House

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Ronpaultopia never has existed, and never will exist, anywhere outside of your imagination. So we should have PRACTICAL methods of paying for things instead of impractical methods of paying for things.
    your attitude is why we have a malignant and out of control government



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