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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I am pretty sure if someone was running around claiming to be pro-abortion but thinks abortion should be illegal and carry a death sentence you and every other abortionist would call that person a liar or phony.
    If you expect to get into an actual conversation with people on the opposite side of this issue, it may help to stop referring to them as "pro-abortion" because it's beyond ****ing ridiculous. Nobody is pro-abortion. Believing that women should have a choice over their own body isn't the same as wanting abortions to happen regularly. Even you have to realize how ****ing stupid that is.

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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    If you expect to get into an actual conversation with people on the opposite side of this issue, it may help to stop referring to them as "pro-abortion" because it's beyond ****ing ridiculous. Nobody is pro-abortion. Believing that women should have a choice over their own body isn't the same as wanting abortions to happen regularly. Even you have to realize how ****ing stupid that is.
    I wonder why choicers run from being called pro abortion. If it's not a baby or a life or anything worth protecting, why shy away from being called pro abortion? I don't mind being called anti abortion.
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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I wonder why choicers run from being called pro abortion. If it's not a baby or a life or anything worth protecting, why shy away from being called pro abortion. I don't mind being called anti abortion.
    Because nobody is actually pro-abortion. They are pro-choice because they feel that a woman should have the choice one way or another. What part of that do you not get? Pro-choice isn't the opposite side of the coin to pro-life. Pro-choice is a middle ground view. It isn't either one or the other. You are anti-abortion because you take an absolutist standpoint. That's fine. I'm pro-choice because I believe a woman should have a choice one way or another. I in no way advocate abortion, nor do other pro-choice people. Time and time again I've seen pro-life people come up with this ridiculous argument and it does absolutely nothing to help your cause.

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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I wonder why choicers run from being called pro abortion.
    Because, fundamentally, people who are pro-choice still consider abortion to be a bad thing and desire that there be far fewer abortions in general.

    I don't cringe when people call me "pro-abortion", but even in my case it is an inaccurate and emotionally-charged term.

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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    Because nobody is actually pro-abortion. They are pro-choice because they feel that a woman should have the choice one way or another. What part of that do you not get? Pro-choice isn't the opposite side of the coin to pro-life. Pro-choice is a middle ground view. It isn't either one or the other. You are anti-abortion because you take an absolutist standpoint. That's fine. I'm pro-choice because I believe a woman should have a choice one way or another. I in no way advocate abortion, nor do other pro-choice people. Time and time again I've seen pro-life people come up with this ridiculous argument and it does absolutely nothing to help your cause.
    No offense, but I don't need a choicer telling me what is and is not good for my "cause". You all believe abortion is a right, right? Rights are good things, no? So why aren't you proud to be pro abortion? If you're not, that's as good as admitting abortion is wrong and you don't believe that do you?
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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr_Patrick View Post
    If you expect to get into an actual conversation with people on the opposite side of this issue, it may help to stop referring to them as "pro-abortion" because it's beyond ****ing ridiculous. Nobody is pro-abortion. Believing that women should have a choice over their own body isn't the same as wanting abortions to happen regularly. Even you have to realize how ****ing stupid that is.
    Pro-legalization,pro-choice or what ever else you people want to call yourself is pro-abortion. Just because you would not do it is irrelevant. Just like someone can be pro-gay marriage but would never engage in sex with someone of the same gender. You can support 2nd amendment rights and not own a single firearm. You can be for freedom of the press even though you are not a member of the press. You can be against censorship and not fowl language or not walk around naked. You are pro-abortion, if you do not want to be pro-abortion then oppose legalized abortion.
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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

    I'm strongly pro-life. But I don't really know people who are pro-abortion, in that they want more abortions preformed. I dislike the hyped up mantra of calling people anti-choice, pro-abortion, calling the fetus a parasite, and the like.

    Regardless, this "dr." Should be severely punished along with the women who consented to these horrific killings. Were the women briefed on what was going on? Did they consent to this? If so, they are equally sick and equally guilty.
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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    No offense, but I don't need a choicer telling me what is and is not good for my "cause". You all believe abortion is a right, right? Rights are good things, no? So why aren't you proud to be pro abortion? If you're not, that's as good as admitting abortion is wrong and you don't believe that do you?
    I've already explained my position on the matter. Feel free to continue your pathetic baiting attempts by calling me "pro-abortion". As I said, it does nothing for your cause. Poorly constructed stereotypes rarely do.

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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Pro-legalization,pro-choice or what ever else you people want to call yourself is pro-abortion. Just because you would not do it is irrelevant. Just like someone can be pro-gay marriage but would never engage in sex with someone of the same gender. You can support 2nd amendment rights and not own a single firearm. You can be for freedom of the press even though you are not a member of the press. You can be against censorship and not fowl language or not walk around naked. You are pro-abortion, if you do not want to be pro-abortion then oppose legalized abortion.
    Blah blah blah. I could care less for whatever twisted reasoning leads you to call pro-choice people pro-abortion. It's an absurd standpoint to take and if you can't see that, there is really nothing I can do for you.

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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I'm strongly pro-life. But I don't really know people who are pro-abortion, in that they want more abortions preformed. I dislike the hyped up mantra of calling people anti-choice, pro-abortion, calling the fetus a parasite, and the like.
    Exactly. Referring to pro-life people as anti-choice is just as ridiculous as calling pro-choice people pro-abortion.

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