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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Centrist View Post
    Looks like Dr. Pat ran off when I asked his opinion on when human development ends and human life starts. That one usually gets the pro-choicers lol
    Technically when the baby is born. But legally I don't think abortions should take place after the first trimester.
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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

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    Technically when the baby is born. But legally I don't think abortions should take place after the first trimester.
    If we are talking technicalities and medical terms, wouldn't it be fetal viability?

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    If God is not part of every aspect of your life you do not have a personal relationship with Him
    Thank you, I did not realize we had god himself present and posting on Debate Politics.

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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Then you only seek God for certain things you know best for others.

    Do you know God rewarded mid wives in the Old Testament for not doing abortions
    In the old testament God rewarded human sacrifice, genecide and slavery.

    Actually give me the verses to midwives who didn't do abortions please, will be interesting to me.
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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Johnny Centrist View Post
    If we are talking technicalities and medical terms, wouldn't it be fetal viability?
    Depends on what you mean by viable. If you mean that the baby can exit the womb, and survive then with modern tech, that would be around six months at the very earliest.
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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

    Shocker, the abortion debate goes the same way as always.

    "you're killing babies!" "What constitutes a baby!" "What we say constitutes a baby!" "Nuh-uh!" "Yeah-huh!".

    The whole thing is an endless loop to infinity because it all comes down to when we define life as beginning, and frankly there is no unquestionable and undeniable notion of when that is. Every statement of "when life begins" is an arbitrary designation that the person who supports it creates and uses what evidence they have to back up their assertion.

    People who want abortions, regardless of any point, will argue its not life until the baby is outside of the mother living on its own. Others, who want limits, may suggest its when the baby can sustain outside of the body on its own if it had to or when it can feel pain. Others still, will suggest that the moment life is possible...ie conception...then it is life. But then again, that is no less or more arbitrary than the other ones. Someone could suggest that the moment the genetic material needed to combine and form a child is expelled from the body you have the first stages of life as it has the capacity to create a living breathing child.

    Because there is no unquestionable definition of when life truly begins that can be presented in an irrefutable way, we're going to have this run around debate again and again as one side says their arbitrary definition is right while the other screams that no, THEIR'S is and only idiots wouldn't see it.

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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Like I said, I don't mix my religion with my politics, my personal religious objections to abortion have nothing to do with why I think we should keep abortion legal.
    So Politics trump God

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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

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    So Politics trump God
    No, you just aren't getting it. My religious convictions should only effect my life, not everyone else's life. And also a Christian theocracy isn't a good form of government, well any theocracy for that matter.
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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Can't we remember that only 1 in 3 even believe in the Bible? And can't we ever discuss abortion (in this case, outright murder) without evoking the Bible? Getting as bad as Godwin.
    So 70% of this country claims to be a Christian but only 1 in 3 believes the Bible. Someone is not being truthful

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    Re: Abortion Doctor Charged with Murder

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