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    Re: G.E. to Share Jet Technology With China in New Joint Venture

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    After awhile, it gets hard to respect American Big Business.
    there is no such thing as American big business
    too many people wrongly believe that a corporation with active centers in the USA is also acting in the USA's interest
    the obligation of the principals of a corporation is to drive corporate success, even if the strategy to do so is not in the USA's best interests
    now recognize that i did not say that gives the corporation with a USA presence the right to undermine the USA's interests ... but the line between those two results can be sliced quite thin
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: G.E. to Share Jet Technology With China in New Joint Venture

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Bob Gates was in Beijing last week meeting with Chinese generals. He asked them to establish a military to military relationship with America. They refused. Why do you think the Chinese refused the offer of a relationship with the American military?
    because it is in their self interest
    same as the reason they will not modify the value of the yuan, despite our exhortations
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: G.E. to Share Jet Technology With China in New Joint Venture

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    because it is in their self interest
    same as the reason they will not modify the value of the yuan, despite our exhortations
    Close but no cigar. The answer is that the PLA is following the injunctions of Sun Tzu. Know your enemy and you need not fear defeat in a hundred battles. The Chinese don't want America to understand them. If America doesn't know Chinese capabilities, America will be surprised in the event of a conflict.

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    Re: G.E. to Share Jet Technology With China in New Joint Venture

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Close but no cigar. The answer is that the PLA is following the injunctions of Sun Tzu. Know your enemy and you need not fear defeat in a hundred battles. The Chinese don't want America to understand them. If America doesn't know Chinese capabilities, America will be surprised in the event of a conflict.
    where do you come up with this lame ass ****?
    as if there are no Americans with sino ancestry and/or knowledge of chinese history and culture, causing us to be ignorant of the world's other major power
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: G.E. to Share Jet Technology With China in New Joint Venture

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    where do you come up with this lame ass ****?
    From The Art Of War.

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    Re: G.E. to Share Jet Technology With China in New Joint Venture

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Don't you think it's a bad idea to sell military technology to a country that we might have to face on the battlefield one day?
    Not a matter of "might", it's a matter of when!


    Bad idea.. This is political cronnism at it most worst! Obama is an idiot, and there's no denying it anymore!


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    Re: G.E. to Share Jet Technology With China in New Joint Venture

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    Bob Gates was in Beijing last week meeting with Chinese generals. He asked them to establish a military to military relationship with America. They refused. Why do you think the Chinese refused the offer of a relationship with the American military?
    Maybe because the US is threatening them (here, here) and blaming them for our economic circumstances(here, here and here

    Also, so just because China is refusing a military relationship with the US means they are planning to attack America (in the future)?
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    Re: G.E. to Share Jet Technology With China in New Joint Venture

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    Maybe because the US is threatening them (here, here) and blaming them for our economic circumstances(here, here and here

    Also, so just because China is refusing a military relationship with the US means they are planning to attack America (in the future)?

    I think you're a nice kid. Let me give you a pointer in debate.

    You are a leftist. I am a conservative. In our discussion you have used the Canadian website Globalresearch. GR is a notorious leftist site.

    In debate if you want to establish a point you must use a source that your opponent accepts as valid, authoritative, and unbiased. If you don't do that your opponent will dismiss your source as irrelevant or biased.

    This leads to a rule of thumb. As a conservative I only use centrist and/or leftist sources when debating leftists. If I cited a conservative source the opponent would be justified in rejecting the source. Conversely, leftists must use conservative and/or centrist sources before I will accept the source as admissible.

    Since GR is a leftist Canadian source I hereby reject it as both biased and unauthoritive. That's the way the game is played.

    China seeks military advantage by refusing to be transparent. Arms control is based on transparency. America has allowed the PLA General Staff access to Cheyenne Mountain, Norfolk NB, missile bases, etc. The Chinese have refused to reciprocate.

    Without transparency it is necessary to assume the worst about the PLA.

    Don't get me wrong, I think there are lots of swell guys in the PLA. I know a couple of them. Gentlemen and scholars. But being nice doesn't mean ****. We need to know what the **** they are up to. Get with the program.

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    Re: G.E. to Share Jet Technology With China in New Joint Venture

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    I think you're a nice kid. Let me give you a pointer in debate.

    You are a leftist. I am a conservative. In our discussion you have used the Canadian website Globalresearch. GR is a notorious leftist site.

    In debate if you want to establish a point you must use a source that your opponent accepts as valid, authoritative, and unbiased. If you don't do that your opponent will dismiss your source as irrelevant or biased.

    This leads to a rule of thumb. As a conservative I only use centrist and/or leftist sources when debating leftists. If I cited a conservative source the opponent would be justified in rejecting the source. Conversely, leftists must use conservative and/or centrist sources before I will accept the source as admissible.

    Since GR is a leftist Canadian source I hereby reject it as both biased and unauthoritive. That's the way the game is played.

    China seeks military advantage by refusing to be transparent. Arms control is based on transparency. America has allowed the PLA General Staff access to Cheyenne Mountain, Norfolk NB, missile bases, etc. The Chinese have refused to reciprocate.

    Without transparency it is necessary to assume the worst about the PLA.

    Don't get me wrong, I think there are lots of swell guys in the PLA. I know a couple of them. Gentlemen and scholars. But being nice doesn't mean ****. We need to know what the **** they are up to. Get with the program.
    Please prove that Global Research is biased. Also please prove that China is planning to attack the US, since it seems that is what you think.
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    Re: G.E. to Share Jet Technology With China in New Joint Venture

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    China seeks military advantage by refusing to be transparent. Arms control is based on transparency. America has allowed the PLA General Staff access to Cheyenne Mountain, Norfolk NB, missile bases, etc. The Chinese have refused to reciprocate.

    Without transparency it is necessary to assume the worst about the PLA.

    Don't get me wrong, I think there are lots of swell guys in the PLA. I know a couple of them. Gentlemen and scholars. But being nice doesn't mean ****. We need to know what the **** they are up to. Get with the program.
    This is the point I have been making since our leaders decided it would be a good thing to trade with China and allow our industry to be shipped there wholesale. Not to mention that everytime a US company wants to enter the market they have to give a technology transfer to the Chinese. Good ol free trade, gotta love it!

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