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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Le Marteau.

    We're you aware that the UK is the 2nd most crime ridden EU country? That the crime rate in your gun free haven is 5 times that of the USA? Don't believe me?



    Britain's violent crime record is worse than any other country in the European union, it is revealed today.

    Official crime figures show the UK also has a worse rate for all types of violence than the U.S. and even South Africa - widely considered one of the world's most dangerous countries
    The most violent country in Europe: Britain is also worse than South Africa and U.S. | Mail Online
    he figures, compiled from reports released by the European Commission and United Nations, also show:

    * The UK has the second highest overall crime rate in the EU.
    * It has a higher homicide rate than most of our western European neighbours, including France, Germany, Italy and Spain.
    * The UK has the fifth highest robbery rate in the EU.
    * It has the fourth highest burglary rate and the highest absolute number of burglaries in the EU, with double the number of offences than recorded in Germany and France.
    *SSA
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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Yes it is. It's the government's business to keep its citizens safe, and with religious fanatics all over middle America walking around with pistols and shotguns on their person, the populace isn't very safe now is it?
    It is not the governments damn business what firearms someone has. If the government was so concerned with keeping its citizens safe it would crank up the security on the border and it would actually send the military to the border to actually defend the border. Considering the fact there is a little over 12,000 homicides a year with firearms compared to the 250-300 million firearms in this country we are pretty much safe.


    So, the government has several clear-cut and rightful reasons to limit and restrict the sale of weapons.
    Its the government's duty to support and defend the constitution(which has been point out by other posters in this thread) not find ways to subvert it.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Yes it is. It's the government's business to keep its citizens safe, and with religious fanatics all over middle America walking around with pistols and shotguns on their person, the populace isn't very safe now is it?

    So, the government has several clear-cut and rightful reasons to limit and restrict the sale of weapons.


    One would argue the "populace" in middle America is far safer than the "populace" in our major coastal cities... You know the ones with big gun bans?



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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Dude, there has to be something wrong with this chart. There is no way in hell South Africa has less violent crime then the UK, it's simply impossible.

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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    A requirement to report sales does not in any way violate the second amendment right to keep and bear arms. There is no infringement of the second amendment here, sorry.
    Are you serious?? If the government knows how many guns you have they know when they have taken all that you have.

    What about the right to privacy? If you get one of many STDs you are reports but there is no reporting of HIV out of the person’s right to privacy. I had to be tested for HIV because those who know that they have HIV don’t have to tell and if there is a chance that surgical instrument was not properly sterilized then a lot of people have to be tested because the hospital doesn’t know if one of the people had HIV.

    HIV is more deadly percentage wise than guns so let’s let gun owners have their privacy.
    with religious fanatics all over middle America walking around with pistols and shotguns on their person, the populace isn't very safe now is it?
    If you are saying that all of the drug dealers that are being killed in Chicago are being killed by these religious fanatics then I have to say – “Keep up the good work.”.
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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Dude, there has to be something wrong with this chart. There is no way in hell South Africa has less violent crime then the UK, it's simply impossible.
    Go to teh source, check their numbers.
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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the proposal clearly runs afoul of the second point-AKA the Tenth amendment
    You'll have to forgive me, as I don't seem to be on your level when it comes to understanding the law... Please explain how a violation of the Tenth Amendment is a violation of the Second Amendment.

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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Dude, there has to be something wrong with this chart. There is no way in hell South Africa has less violent crime then the UK, it's simply impossible.
    Why not? Too many colored folks in Sout' Af-ree-ka?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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