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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    Any new requirement is questionable as is anything Obama does.

    As I see it add any regulation to anything having to do your rights is just a foot in the door.

    I'm sorry but I do not trust Obama as far as i can throw an Abrams Tank.

    Everything he does is calculated and not in the long term interest of us our our Nation as a whole.

    He is Anti-American as it teaches in his Black Liberation Theology.

    I wish people would take the time to look into Rev. Write and what he preaches and Obama sat and listened to for 20 years. Match that up with his being raised by Communists ans you start to get a picture of who he is and why he has surrounded himself with like thinking Radicals.

    He uses the speeches written for for him to spew his propaganda and relies on the 5th column media to back his every move with hate mongering rhetoric like from Matthews, Olbermann, Es Schultz and the pundits on ABC,CBS, NBC, and CNN.
    My God, you constantly astound me with your ability to fulfill every single stereotype of the dumb, ignorant, gun-toting redneck. Would you please at least find a better façade for your hatred of his skin colour than "Black Liberation Theory"?

    It's far too see-through, not even your fellow neocon hicks can take you seriously.

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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    ....It's far too see-through, not even your fellow neocon hicks can take you seriously.
    Councilman hasn't said anything that would indicate he is a neo-conservative. But you nevertheless characterize him as a neo-conservative. So why are you calling him a neo-con?

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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    As I see it add any regulation to anything having to do your rights is just a foot in the door.
    Then you see it incorrectly. There is plenty of regulation that touches on protected constitutional rights, but as long as these regulations are not infringement they are hardly a "foot in the door."

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I wish people would take the time to look into Rev. Write and what he preaches and Obama sat and listened to for 20 years. Match that up with his being raised by Communists ans you start to get a picture of who he is and why he has surrounded himself with like thinking Radicals.
    You're going off on quite a tangent here, but I'll play along.

    Liberation theology is hardly a form of communism, it is a social theology that attempts to be true to Christ's message. It's what the sermon on the mount was all about. As a Catholic I do not agree with some of the finer points of Liberation Theology, but it is a commendable school of thought.

    I wish people would take the time to research what Liberation Theology is all about instead of buying into the hate mongering rhetoric from the Limbaughs, Becks, Hannitys, Malkins and pundits on Fox News that try to caricature people like Reverend Wright in a politically motivated attempt to bash Obama.
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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    My God, you constantly astound me with your ability to fulfill every single stereotype of the dumb, ignorant, gun-toting redneck. Would you please at least find a better façade for your hatred of his skin colour than "Black Liberation Theory"?

    It's far too see-through, not even your fellow neocon hicks can take you seriously.
    It is reasonable, and not racist, to believe that an individual that is a member of a church that preaches black liberation and socialism also believes in black liberation and socialism.
    You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.For the entire law is fulfilled in keeping this one command: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    It is reasonable, and not racist, to believe that an individual that is a member of a church that preaches black liberation and socialism also believes in black liberation and socialism.
    It is unreasonable to conflate socialism with Liberation Theology, since they are entirely different things.

    It is also racist if your criticism of "Black [sic] Liberation Theology" has nothing to do with the substance of the theological movement itself, but rather is based out of a hatred of the people who make up the movement.

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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Quote Originally Posted by Le Marteau View Post
    Yes it is. It's the government's business to keep its citizens safe, and with religious fanatics all over middle America walking around with pistols and shotguns on their person, the populace isn't very safe now is it?

    So, the government has several clear-cut and rightful reasons to limit and restrict the sale of weapons.
    I know you won't let facts dissuade you but, I'll point this out anyway;

    The oft-cited credo that more guns equal more crime is being tested by facts on the ground this year: Even as gun ownership has surged in the US in the past year, violent crime, including murder and robbery, has dropped steeply.
    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society...e-report-shows.
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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I know you won't let facts dissuade you but, I'll point this out anyway;
    Here's some more facts to support the thesis that higher rates of lawful gun ownership increases freedom, a study which shows just that:
    SSRN-Is There a Relationship between Guns and Freedom? Comparative Results from 59 Nations by David Kopel, Carlisle Moody, Howard Nemerov

    Let's hope that facts do have some impact on our friend here

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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I know you won't let facts dissuade you but, I'll point this out anyway;



    http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Society...e-report-shows.
    You can do as many NRA studies as you want, mate (and there are, by the way, plentiful studies saying the direct opposite -- in fact, a supermajority of studies claim that more guns = more gun violence), but you can't get around the fact that there were ~12,000 gun crimes committed in the US last year, and there were 68 in the UK.


    By the way, I'd be happy to link the studies for you, if you're willing to have a debate on the subject.


    As well, your link was fake. Check it.
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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    It is unreasonable to conflate socialism with Liberation Theology, since they are entirely different things.

    It is also racist if your criticism of "Black [sic] Liberation Theology" has nothing to do with the substance of the theological movement itself, but rather is based out of a hatred of the people who make up the movement.
    Not in that church.

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    Re: Obama Administration's New Proposed Gun Regulation for Border States Met With Bip

    Quote Originally Posted by ksu_aviator View Post
    Not in that church.
    He's not in a church in that video clip, he is speaking at an event for the New York Society for Ethical Culture. So my point still stands, I have yet to see any evidence that there is any factual basis for this conflation of Liberation Theology and socialism. Rev. Wright apparently is a socialist, but that does not mean Liberation Theology is inherently socialistic.

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