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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Actually - if a victim who suffered wants to blame the party then I'm all for it . . . I never judge what someone in that situation thinks or feels and I won't hold it against them.

    It's everyone else not directly affected that needs to stop the ridiculous rhetoric - but if a victim is hurt and angry then I'm not about to encourage them to *not* express that.
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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Actually - if a victim who suffered wants to blame the party then I'm all for it . . . I never judge what someone in that situation thinks or feels and I won't hold it against them.

    It's everyone else not directly affected that needs to stop the ridiculous rhetoric - but if a victim is hurt and angry then I'm not about to encourage them to *not* express that.
    Are you serious??

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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    Are you serious??
    Yes I'm serious.
    if you were injured in that way in some twisted depraved accident and blamed the damn moon and stars I wouldn't judge you for it.

    It's everyone ELSE (news personalities, commentaries, etc) who are out of line - not someone who actually suffered physically for someone's insanity.

    I feel bad for the living victims - and I will not hold anything against them because of this.
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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    NO ONE should be blamed for this except the person who SHOT HIM. This man is insane for blaming people who had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. Totally political and totally insane.

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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    NO ONE should be blamed for this except the person who SHOT HIM. This man is insane for blaming people who had NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. Totally political and totally insane.
    I've seen how war effects a soldier's ability to function normally, think rationally, and be reasonable. . . PTSD or whatever you want to call it.
    I DON'T hold it against them.

    The human mind - in response to a horrible experience - struggles to cope. If that's how he FEELS then I'm not about to judge him - sure, it's not the way things *really are*- but if that is his FEELINGS then that's his feelings. I'm not about to dish my opinions on him and make his situation WORSE.

    The surviving victims need support - sound, reasonable, listening support- not judgment and ridicule.
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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    AS, should he have been arrested?

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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Actually - if a victim who suffered wants to blame the party then I'm all for it . . . I never judge what someone in that situation thinks or feels and I won't hold it against them.

    It's everyone else not directly affected that needs to stop the ridiculous rhetoric - but if a victim is hurt and angry then I'm not about to encourage them to *not* express that.
    You're not going to encourage them to not express it? What if he had carried out the threat? That would be expressing it, too.
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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    You're not going to encourage them to not express it? What if he had carried out the threat? That would be expressing it.
    It's common and understandable for actual victims of such horrific events to act on uncontrollable emotions. PTSD is a serious mental issue - someone suffering from it NEEDS serious medical attention because, no, they are not 100% in control of theirselves or thinking rationally.

    Rape victims and victims of continual abuse who strike back at their assailants are a perfect example of why post-trauma intervention is vital to them leading a normal life.

    Yet for a victim of continual abuse or rape - actually striking back at their supposed assailant is a reasonable and understandable defense. Does anyone judge them FOR their reaction? In quite a few cases the anser is no.

    I feel that Fuller as being no different than the many other situations of the same ilk.

    He is having issues - he needs help - and I'm not going to judge him for what he's suffering through at all. It is not his fault. Blaming victims for their responses and reactions is why many victims of various crimes DON'T come forward.
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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Mellie View Post
    AS, should he have been arrested?
    Aunt Spiker.....?

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