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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    You have got to be kidding.

    The logic of this statement is absent completely, but it does match up with a Liberal mind set that allows people to blame everyone but the one responsible and make wild and crazy unsubstantiated accusations as the Liberal wackos have been doing since the Crazy shooter went over the edge.

    I would have to say Liberals are to blame for this outburst since they have spent the week making up stories and blaming everyone except President Bush.

    If this case I hope the idiot gets some serious time in jail and maybe he'll learn not to act like a damn fool.
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    You completely missed my point, Barb. The left wing AND the right wing have been coming out with lies and speculation about many issues for YEARS. If you want to focus on ths small picture, you're never going to understand the big picture. Maybe you don't want to... I don't know. But this thing didn't start last Saturday.
    Sorry, but I don't think my side has the reputation of lying the way the liberal (media) does. Though I admit, this is a new low, even for them.
    If you call this focusing on a small picture, I'll have to disagree. This is a big picture after lots of little ones piling up in the past.
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Well, as I said, there was no legitimate link between Loughner and the TEA party in the first place, yet this guy seems to believe there was. who has been telling us that it was the TEA Party?
    No one told Sarah Palin that a killing was going to happen ahead of time, how did she randomly know to put crosshairs on this congresswoman?

    Seriously...could it possibly be that this guy...like many in the media, in politics, and on this forum...on his own volition came to that asinine idea on his own? Are you saying that's impossible?

    And if its not impossible, then what proof do you have that his opinion came due to the "rhetoric" from people on the left in the aftermath of this and not due to his own thoughts and opinions?

    I'll go you one better and say that, even if it's indisputably proven that this guy believed and worshipped every left wing pundit, I'd say the responsibility for this guy's actions still rest with him. I said that about Loughner too, so I'm being consistent. I'll be interested to see if those on the left will be as well.
    Really? You've been consistent?

    I must've missed your condemnation of individuals baselessly using this for political gain such as the following post which, when people made similar regarding the tea party you were all over them pointing out their ridiculousness:

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    The liberals and their lies are coming home to roost...

    Great job people... Pat yourselves on the back and we'll all wait for the next time you incite violence with you lies and malicious rhetoric.
    And really, you are CONSISTENT with comments like this?

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    No, the irony is in that certain left wing pundits seem to now have created the very atmosphere they wrongly bashed the TEA party for.
    I thought in the all the threads that were blaming the tea party you were saying how there's no proof that the tea party in any way influenced this man through their "atmosphere". Yet somehow you're amking a claim that the "left wing pundits" DID create the "Very atmosphere" that you were saying they were wrong about with regards to the Tea Party.

    It seems you're not even consistent in this thread, let alone with your stance over the past week.

    For further evidence, how about this post

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I think the same way too, however, there is one major difference. In Loughner's case, he was not motivated by right wing rhetoric where it looks like this guy actually did believe some of the left's rhetoric.
    Sure seems like you're making a claim that this guy WAS motivated by "the left's rhetoric". So again, I ask you...where's your proof on this? Are are you just capitalizing on coincidences and assumptions with absolutely no proof in hopes of pushing a political agenda and taking advantage of death threats for your own partisan reasons?

    Seriously, you're not consistent save for in your attempts to act like you are with hollow words here or there that are betrayed when someone looks at your other posts in the thread.

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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    Ignoring the mental-health issue at hand or stomping your feet and calling Fuller a wretched person isn't going to SOLVE anything.

    But go on - like children - throw your hissy fits like it's going to fix something. But you'd think that some adults would know better.

    Oops! Guess not.
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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Councilman View Post
    I would have to say Liberals are to blame for this outburst since they have spent the week making up stories and blaming everyone except President Bush.
    I'll ask your as well. Show me more PROOF that this man's opinion was formed due to being influenced by liberal commentators suggesting it was the Tea Party's fault rather than due to his own views and thoughts on the situation than was provided when people suggested that conservatives were to blame for the killing?

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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Sorry, but I don't think my side has the reputation of lying the way the liberal (media) does. Though I admit, this is a new low, even for them.
    If you call this focusing on a small picture, I'll have to disagree. This is a big picture after lots of little ones piling up in the past.
    You've got to be kidding, Barb. This just shows that you refuse to consider that your side can do anything wrong. Conservative pudits have an AWFUL reputation as liars. Just like the liberals ones. You're completely missing the big picture, seemingly, because you just want to blame the left. You have a conclusion and then you find information to prove your conclusion correct... avoiding anything that disputes your conclusion. That is being biased and demonstrates that you DON'T see the big picture.
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Is it an "ACME" anvil? Just curious...

    Sadly, acrimonious political discourse has only worsened in the past week... Football seems civilized by comparison...
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Apologies and retractions are in order from those on the right who claimed that Loughner was a liberal. Apologies and retractions are in order from those on the right for those who are "birthers". You want me to go on? You want to focus on ONE side. ONE side didn't start or perpetuate this... no matter how badly you want/need it to be true. This goes back far further than Saturday.
    What do birthers have to do with anything? What about truthers? What about GW alarmists? As far as I'm concerned they're allowed to believe any silly thing they want as long as they're not hurting anyone.
    Why should those who said loughner seemed like more of a liberal than a conservative have to apologize for stating a fact against the lies that he was on the right?
    I'm focused on one side because one side did start this.
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    The cops had to act here. You can't let a comment like that just go ignored. At the same time, I think a mental institute for a psych evaluation is probably the better option right now. Getting him some psychological help, or at least an evaluation, to see if this is less of a legitimate threat and more of something stress induced from the situation would be a good first step.
    I agree! There is a mental problem here. Ed Shultz is a problem that added to the whole whirlwind of foolishness. I listened to him yesterday and the day before. Although both sides are to blame NOW..... the democrats started this! Thing is.......... ALLL OF US CAN STOP THIS!!!! (plus realize that these salesmen spin doctors are dividing this Nation upon thier own good!)
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    I think I agree with Aunt Spiker here. We need to make sure this shooting victim gets the help he needs. You can’t blame him for seething with anger after seeing what he saw, getting shot and most likely coming to terms with the fact that he was going to die in that moment. Then his dill weed sheriff and the media turn this into a political food fight.


    The subject victim and I are probably at polar ends of the political spectrum but people need to back off and give this guy some time to work out his issues.

    That means we should hate on any news crew who puts a mike and camera in his face in the future. Don't put him in the spotlight because it isn't good for him and it isn't good for the country.
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