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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I think the same way too, however, there is one major difference. In Loughner's case, he was not motivated by right wing rhetoric where it looks like this guy actually did believe some of the left's rhetoric.
    Exactly. The sheriff then krugman came out with lies and speculation and the media ran with it. Apologies and retractions from the left are in order.
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Dude...... I am VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY mad at you right now. You SHOULD be smarter than THIS!
    I don't think I've ever had a noodle pissed at me before. Sorry, GN, not trying to piss you off.
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    No, the left wing rhetoric that came out were lies and speculation.
    You completely missed my point, Barb. The left wing AND the right wing have been coming out with lies and speculation about many issues for YEARS. If you want to focus on ths small picture, you're never going to understand the big picture. Maybe you don't want to... I don't know. But this thing didn't start last Saturday.
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    Exactly. The sheriff then krugman came out with lies and speculation and the media ran with it. Apologies and retractions from the left are in order.
    Apologies and retractions are in order from those on the right who claimed that Loughner was a liberal. Apologies and retractions are in order from those on the right for those who are "birthers". You want me to go on? You want to focus on ONE side. ONE side didn't start or perpetuate this... no matter how badly you want/need it to be true. This goes back far further than Saturday.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I just don't want him hurting anyone. I think Loughner's responsible for his actions. I feel the same way about this guy.
    Neither do I! Which is why he needs some serious IMMEDIATE professional intervention.

    The worst thing to do is just leave him alone. He is unstable - which is normal for victims after such an event.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    I 1000% disagree! This man SHOULD be SENSITIVE to what happened! Not the opposite!!!
    I detest this. Every RATIONAL person, democrat and repubs, should know this violence is created by a CRAZY son of a bitch!!!
    Why do you think a direct victim of a horrible incident such as this is capable of rationality?

    I don't think he is capable of rationality which is unbelievably OBVIOUS - I think he's struggling to deal with what happened to him (in all the wrong ways) and he needs therapy - not judgment.

    I will say it again:
    He needs therapy to deal with his emotional issues from this and not judgment.

    Everyone judging him should keep this in mind if you're ever the victim of a horrible tragedy like this - and if, God forbid, you're shot or something like that - and you want to blame everyone and everything - I'd say the same for you: therapy and help - not judgment and ridicule.
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    I made some home made chicken soup. Its yours!

    There is very little fat in it (unlike OTHER THINGS!!! ) and its all chicken breast meat. It has white beans and vegis and freah herbs too. Plus my breathern noodles!
    How'd you know I've been sick? HAVE YOU BEEN STALKING ME?!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    You can't paint everone with the same brush.......It does not work tht way.


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    See with you around Captain we don't even have to make arguments, as you already know everything .
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    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    X-factor and others on the right in this thread.

    Can you please provide any particular fact clearly showing this man's views regarding the Tea Party leader was inspired by any specific individuals in the media or politics comments regarding the responsibility of the Tea Party for the shooting? Do you have any fat or proof at all to suggest this was an act inspired by others and not something that came about due to his own thoughts and views?

    And if you can't provide any facts but simple assumptions, guesses, and insinuations...could you please explain how that is ANY different than the bull**** some of those on the left were doing the past week?

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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    No you missed his bigger point, which is that stuff like this has been going on for a while. It is just more heated and noticeable because of the shooting.
    It's more heated because of the lies that were told after the shooting.
    Show me where heated political discourse had anything to do with this shooting.
    Show me where it's right to accuse the tea party, sarah palin, dana perino for crying out loud, for having blood on their hands.
    If anyone wants the rhetoric to tone down someone should tell the media. So far, no apologies, no retractions.
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Apologies and retractions are in order from those on the right who claimed that Loughner was a liberal. Apologies and retractions are in order from those on the right for those who are "birthers". You want me to go on? You want to focus on ONE side. ONE side didn't start or perpetuate this... no matter how badly you want/need it to be true. This goes back far further than Saturday.
    Be honest though, CC. Aren't you curious what those left wingers who did blame the right are going to say about this? I am.
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