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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    Actually, if they can create the atmosphere and are to blame, then they are also right about political rhetoric.

    I think I am one of the few left who actually blame the perpetrators themselves for their actions.
    I think the same way too, however, there is one major difference. In Loughner's case, he was not motivated by right wing rhetoric where it looks like this guy actually did believe some of the left's rhetoric.
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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

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    No Barb, you're not. If this is all you were saying, I have no problem with it. Specifically because you are correct. Conservatives, Palin, Rush, Beck, and the Tea Party had zero to do with what happened, and anyone who says different is a left wing hack who is doing nothing but policizing a tragedy to "stick it" to the other guy. I have nothing but disdain for these folks, both here and in the media. But what you are doing is going a step further. Instead of just defending yourselves against the lies and idiocy, you are producing the same lies and idiocy towards the left. Makes you all look just as bad and perpetuates the problem. You want it to stop? Keep defending yourselves against the stupidity, but stop the ridiculous attacks.
    Damn RIGHT! The child-like mentality of tossing a hot potato (like what Hannity is doing) is Anti-American and flat out destructive to this Nation. All these conservatives are doing is and I dont appreciate it! FIRST we have the idiotic left making ass-hole remarks towards conservatives. NOW we have a fight on the playground with republicans (IE Hannity) being just as BAD! Ive been listening to the radio today and this is PURE HATRED towards each other! Its Un-American and will propogate to the destruction of the citizens love of our kick-ass Country!
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I think the same way too, however, there is one major difference. In Loughner's case, he was not motivated by right wing rhetoric where it looks like this guy actually did believe some of the left's rhetoric.
    That is an assumption in both cases, and an excuse made in the second.
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I think the same way too, however, there is one major difference. In Loughner's case, he was not motivated by right wing rhetoric where it looks like this guy actually did believe some of the left's rhetoric.
    Dude...... I am VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY mad at you right now. You SHOULD be smarter than THIS!
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    I think the same way too, however, there is one major difference. In Loughner's case, he was not motivated by right wing rhetoric where it looks like this guy actually did believe some of the left's rhetoric.
    Perhaps... but perhaps the left wing rhetoric came about because of right wing rhetoric... which came about because of left wing rhetoric... which came about because of right wing rhetoric... which came about... Get what I'm saying? The blame does not fall on the left. The blame does not fall on the right. The blame falls on the atmosphere that extremists and pundits of both leans create. There are individual incidents that can be incited by either individual side, but that's not looking at the big picture at all.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    So? How does that refer to anything I posted? One of the thing that grief counselors suggest is that the person grieving tell their story over and over, helping them to understand it and purge the emotions. I don't think that HOW he's doing it is helpful... no news agency is going to care about his mental health. They just want a news story that will incite others... into another news story. He needs to be talking to a mental health professional. I thought that was pretty clear.
    I agree. I was being sarcastic. However the man needed help before Tuscon. Now he's out on every talk show, bad mouthing every conservative he can think of. Sorry but from his interviews, I'd say the man needs to be commited until he is found not to be a danger to himself or others. Gee.... that sounds familiar... Loughner wasn't allowed back to class until he had a mental evaluation stating that same thing. Too bad he wasn't forced to follow through. Instead he just didn't go back.
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by The Giant Noodle View Post
    Dude...... I am VERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRY mad at you right now. You SHOULD be smarter than THIS!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is an assumption in both cases, and an excuse made in the second.
    Well, except that if this guy blames the TEA Party where there was no connection, where did that belief come from?
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Perhaps... but perhaps the left wing rhetoric came about because of right wing rhetoric... which came about because of left wing rhetoric... which came about because of right wing rhetoric... which came about... Get what I'm saying? The blame does not fall on the left. The blame does not fall on the right. The blame falls on the atmosphere that extremists and pundits of both leans create. There are individual incidents that can be incited by either individual side, but that's not looking at the big picture at all.
    No, the left wing rhetoric that came out were lies and speculation.
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by Barbbtx View Post
    No, the left wing rhetoric that came out were lies and speculation.
    No you missed his bigger point, which is that stuff like this has been going on for a while. It is just more heated and noticeable because of the shooting.

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