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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    9 days ago, a shooter opened up on a group of patriotic americans in a safeway parking lot in tucson, a shooter filled with derangment and hate, plagued by job woes and rejection by women, kicked out of college, who tripped on heavy hallucinogens and wrote poems about strapping bombs to babies and talked of torturing students and produced amateur videos touring his "genocide school," who wasn't political, didn't watch news, didn't listen to talk radio, whose most defining animus seemed to revolve around grammar and his twisted conviction that govt was controlling our prepositions and participles, who worked up some perverse animosity against his congresswoman after she in 2007 answered in spanish a question she evidently could make no sense of...

    almost before the echo of the bullets returned off the shopping mall's walls, activists of the left, pursuing THEIR observable blood vendetta, openly BLAMED the tragedy on the national leaders of an incipient grassroots movement that swept the nation's congresses in our most recent offyear...

    in subsequent days, these completely unfounded ACCUSATIONS of inciting MURDER devolved into a feeding frenzy of fulmination and fury, involving most of the leadership of progressive commentary, from nbc to the ny times...

    despite the fact that awareness of the shooter's total lack of connection to anything normal was profusely available and apparent per the assassin's own actions and words repeatedly posted on youtube and the social network, college records, interviews of those who came in contact with him...

    exactly one week later, a surviving victim of the lonely assassin, after NAMING beck and palin and rush and angle as the individuals whom HE held responsible for his wounding, threatens to KILL a local figurehead of the movement called out as CONSPIRATORS by the likes of krugman, kos, chris matthews and the VOICE OF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, sheriff dupnik...

    there's no doubt about it

    sarah palin and her reprobate pals are CULPABLE for inspiring to bloodshed with their "heated rhetoric" this 22 year old 12 time loser who, for all anyone knows, never even heard of her

    and the times and the sheriff, et al, are completely cleanhanded when it comes to this mr fuller threatening to murder a man the local sheriff and the most noteworthy names in the msm pointed out as the kind of person ultimately responsible for the tragedy

    because, after all, both sides do it

    hate on, homies
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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    9 days ago, a shooter opened up on a group of patriotic americans in a safeway parking lot in tucson, a shooter filled with derangment and hate, plagued by job woes and rejection by women, kicked out of college, who tripped on heavy hallucinogens and wrote poems about strapping bombs to babies and talked of torturing students and produced amateur videos touring his "genocide school," who wasn't political, didn't watch news, didn't listen to talk radio, whose most defining animus seemed to revolve around grammar and his twisted conviction that govt was controlling our prepositions and participles, who worked up some perverse animosity against his congresswoman after she in 2007 answered in spanish a question she evidently could make no sense of...

    almost before the echo of the bullets returned off the shopping mall's walls, activists of the left, pursuing THEIR observable blood vendetta, openly BLAMED the tragedy on the national leaders of an incipient grassroots movement that swept the nation's congresses in our most recent offyear...

    in subsequent days, these completely unfounded ACCUSATIONS of inciting MURDER devolved into a feeding frenzy of fulmination and fury, involving most of the leadership of progressive commentary, from nbc to the ny times...

    despite the fact that awareness of the shooter's total lack of connection to anything normal was profusely available and apparent per the assassin's own actions and words repeatedly posted on youtube and the social network, college records, interviews of those who came in contact with him...

    exactly one week later, a surviving victim of the lonely assassin, after NAMING beck and palin and rush and angle as the individuals whom HE held responsible for his wounding, threatens to KILL a local figurehead of the movement called out as CONSPIRATORS by the likes of krugman, kos, chris matthews and the VOICE OF LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, sheriff dupnik...

    there's no doubt about it

    sarah palin and her reprobate pals are CULPABLE for inspiring to bloodshed with their "heated rhetoric" this 22 year old 12 time loser who, for all anyone knows, never even heard of her

    and the times and the sheriff, et al, are completely cleanhanded when it comes to this mr fuller threatening to murder a man the local sheriff and the most noteworthy names in the msm pointed out as the kind of person ultimately responsible for the tragedy

    because, after all, both sides do it

    hate on, homies
    Exactly!

    No cries of MSNBC made him do it, no naming leftists who are anti Palin, anti Beck, Limbaugh and so on.

    These people aren't just hypocrites, they're simple-minded hypocrites of the first order and are ruining public discourse everywhere.

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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    It's common and understandable for actual victims of such horrific events to act on uncontrollable emotions. PTSD is a serious mental issue - someone suffering from it NEEDS serious medical attention because, no, they are not 100% in control of theirselves or thinking rationally.

    Rape victims and victims of continual abuse who strike back at their assailants are a perfect example of why post-trauma intervention is vital to them leading a normal life.

    Yet for a victim of continual abuse or rape - actually striking back at their supposed assailant is a reasonable and understandable defense. Does anyone judge them FOR their reaction? In quite a few cases the anser is no.

    I feel that Fuller as being no different than the many other situations of the same ilk.

    He is having issues - he needs help - and I'm not going to judge him for what he's suffering through at all. It is not his fault. Blaming victims for their responses and reactions is why many victims of various crimes DON'T come forward.
    The problem is that he wasn't attacking the actual assailent. Often victims of abuse become abusers themselves for the very fact that they could not fight back agains the actual abuser. They still get put in jail and rightly so.

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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    Quote Originally Posted by jambalaya View Post
    The problem is that he wasn't attacking the actual assailent. Often victims of abuse become abusers themselves for the very fact that they could not fight back agains the actual abuser. They still get put in jail and rightly so.
    The traditional use of the term "victim of abuse" suggests abuse over a period of time, not an adult injured by a lone gunman.

    This guy responded with death threats, and it was obviously the fault of Keith Olberman and Nancy Pelosi.

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    Re: AZ shooting victim arrested for making death threats against Tea Party leader

    wall to wall headline news, per every leading msm source in america: sarah palin uses the same maps and metaphors politicians of all stripes have been using since this nation began, contributing to atmosphere of heated rhetoric responsible for mass shooting

    NOT news (except for fox and the ny post):

    James Eric Fuller, 63, who was shot in the knee, had told The Post on Friday, the day before his arrest, that top Republican figures should be tortured -- and their ears severed.

    "There would be torture and then an ear necklace, with Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin's ears toward the end, because they're small, female ears, and then Limbaugh, Hannity and the biggest ears of all, Cheney's, in the center," Fuller said.
    Tucson Shooting Victim: 'There Would Be Torture and Then an Ear Necklace...' - Sarah Palin - Fox Nation

    because, once again, both sides do it

    ashamed yet?

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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by Albert Di Salvo View Post
    American Leftists see American Conservatives as an existential threat. American Conservatives see American Leftists as an existential threat. Neither side sees China as an existential threat.

    The conflict between the American Left and Right will have to be allowed to play itself out and the consequences be damned. One side must win and the other side must lose before the country can act effectively with respect to any foreign threat.
    I see the extemists on BOTH sides as an existential threat... an existential threat to the notion that we can have civilized political discourse!
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    I see the extemists on BOTH sides as an existential threat... an existential threat to the notion that we can have civilized political discourse!
    On the surface that would seem fair enough but in fact it hasn't been 'both sides' who have been making the threats and accusations. It has been the Left.

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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    On the surface that would seem fair enough but in fact it hasn't been 'both sides' who have been making the threats and accusations. It has been the Left.
    In THIS case, that is true. But if you are going to try to convince me and others that the Right doesn't have its share of hateful rhetoric, it will fall on blind eyeballs in this case...
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    Re: Shooting Victim Threatens Tea Partier

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    In THIS case, that is true. But if you are going to try to convince me and others that the Right doesn't have its share of hateful rhetoric, it will fall on blind eyeballs in this case...
    Hateful?

    I'm not convinced. I see much more of it coming from the left and this case is a pefect example.

    The left also construes any criticism as "hatred", which distorts the picture as well.

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